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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg: bMievmxi †Kvb mgm¨vwU ¸iæZ¡c~Y© e‡j g‡b K‡ib Avcwb?
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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : bvMwiK wbivcËve¨e¯’v wb‡q Avcbvi cwiKíbv Kx?
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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : XvKvi cÖvq me KwU dzUcvZ nKvi‡`i `L‡j| dzUcvZ `Ljgy³ Kivi †Kv‡bv cwiKíbv K Avcbvi Av‡Q?
Avwbmyj nK: XvKvwelqK Av‡jvPbvq ÔdzUcvZÕ me mgq GKwU ¯úk©KvZi welq| GB mgm¨vi mgvavb Kxfv‡e m¤¢e, Zv wb‡q dzUcvZ e¨e¯’vcbvi m‡½ RwoZ cÖvq me c‡¶i m‡½ Av‡jvPbv K‡iwQ| Avwg KvD‡K D‡”Q` Kivi c‡¶ bB, Avevi bvMwiK weiw³ ˆZwii KviY‡KI mg_©b Kwi bv| _vBj¨vÛ, w`wjø, KjKvZv, wm½vcyimn we‡k¦i eû kn‡ii dzUcv‡Z c_e¨emvqxiv (nKvi) e¨emv K‡i| IB me kn‡ii dzUcvZ e¨e¯’vcbvi g‡Zv GKwU DbœZ cwiKíbv Avgvi Av‡Q|
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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : bMi cÖkvmb‡K `yb©xwZgy³ Ki‡Z Avcbvi Kx D‡`¨vM n‡e?
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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : ivRbxwZ eo KwVb| Zß| ivRbxwZi Zß gvV iß wK Ki‡Z cvi‡eb?
Avwbmyj nK: wmwU Ki‡cv‡ikb wbe©vP‡b Ask wb‡qwQ RbM‡Yi †mev Kivi D‡Ï‡k¨, ivRbxwZ iß Ki‡Z bq|
Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : Avcbvi wbe©vPbx cÖPviYvi ïiæUv ZiæY‡`i wb‡q| GwU m‡PZbfv‡e K‡i‡Qb, †Kv‡bv D‡Ïk¨ wb‡q?
Avwbmyj nK: †`‡ki †gvU RbmsL¨vi cÖvq A‡a©K ZiæY| 32 kZvsk bZzb †fvUvi Gevi wmwU Ki‡cv‡ikb wbe©vP‡b †fvU †`‡e| ZvivB †`‡ki fwel¨r| mgvR-ivóª-e¨w³i Kj¨vY Zv‡`i nv‡ZB wbwnZ| Avgiv †h cwi”Qbœ, meyR, ¯§vU© I gvbweK XvKv Mo‡Z Pvw”Q Zvi KvwiMi †Zv Ziæ‡YivB| myZivs Zv‡`i wb‡q cÖPviYvi ïiæ Avgv‡`i cwiKíbviB Ask|
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Avgv‡imgq.Kg : Avcwb AvIqvgx jx‡Mi, bv bMievmxi †gqi n‡eb?
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Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : wbi‡c¶ GKUv fveg~wZ© Avcbvi wQj| AvIqvgx jx‡Mi mg_©‡b wbe©vPb Kivi d‡j †mwU wK _vK‡e? wKsev †Kv‡bv iKg wK ¶wZMÖ¯— n‡e? Kx g‡b nq Avcbvi?
Avwbmyj nK: GUvI `„wófw½i welq| AvIqvgx jxM Avgv‡K mg_©b w`‡q‡Q e‡j wK Avwg Ab¨ gvbyl n‡q †MwQ? †Kb? AvIqvgx jxM wK wbwl× ivR‰bwZK `j? AvIqvgx jx‡Mi mevB wK Lvivc gvbyl? †Kb Avcbviv Ggb GKwU Dcmsnv‡i †cuŠ‡Q †M‡jb, AvIqvgx jxM KvD‡K mg_©b w`‡jB Zvi fveg~wZ© ¶wZMÖ¯— n‡e| Avwg g‡b Kwi bv fveg~wZ©i †Kv‡bv mgm¨v n‡e| Avgvi hv AR©b Zv †Zv GK w`‡b nqwb, d‡j Zv GK w`‡b ¶wZMÖ¯—I n‡e bv|
Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : GdwewmwmAvB, mvK© †P¤^vi, wewRGgBG mfvcwZ wQ‡jb Avcwb| e¨emvqx‡`i †fv‡U wbe©vwPZ n‡qwQ‡jb| †gqi wbe©vP‡bi ci hw` e¨emvqxiv bvbv my‡hvM-myweav wb‡Z Pvq| ZLb Kx Ki‡eb? Kxfv‡e mvgjv‡eb cwiw¯’wZ? mvgjv‡Z cvi‡eb wK?
Avwbmyj nK: wmwU Ki‡cv‡ikb †Zv ïay e¨emvqx‡`i bq, me †kÖwYi RbM‡Yi cÖwZôvb| d‡j GLv‡b abx-Mwie, e¨emvqx-PvKwiRxex mevB mgvb| Avwg †gqi n‡Z PvB we‡kl †Kv‡bv †Mvôx‡K myweav w`‡Z bq, eis me †kÖwYi bvMwiK‡`i †meK n‡Z| d‡j GB cÖkœB AevšÍi|
Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : bMi fe‡b `yb©xwZ, `xN©m~ÎZvi Awf‡hvM cÖvq †kvbv hvq| G wel‡q Avcbvi D‡`¨vM Kx n‡e?
Avwbmyj nK: Avwg Rqx n‡j XvKv DËi wmwU Ki‡cv‡ikb n‡e `ybx©wZgy³| `xN©m~ÎZv I `ybx©wZ `~i Ki‡Z bvMwiK me †mev‡K Avgiv B-†mevq cwiYZ Kie|
Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : wbe©vPbx cÖPviYvq 15 jvL UvKv †eu‡a w`‡q‡Q Kwgkb| 15 jvL UvKvq cÖPviYv h‡_ó? Avcbvi wbe©vPbx e¨‡qi cwigvY KZ?
Avwbmyj nK: cÖkœUv wbe©vPb Kwgkb‡KB Kiæb|
Avwbmyj nK: wbe©vP‡b cÖ‡Z¨‡KB k³ cÖwZc¶|
Avgv‡`imgq.Kg : Avcwb GKRb e¨emvqx| e¨emv-bMi febÑ mgq fvM Ki‡eb Kxfv‡e?
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