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Gg. kvn Avj‡gi Rb¥ 1951 mv‡j, gywÝMÄ †Rjvi weµgcy‡i| 1982 mv‡j g‡¯‹vi †cwUÖm jygy¤^v MY‰gÎx wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K mgy`ÖweÁv‡b wcGBPwW wWwMÖ †bb| wZwb PÆMÖvg wek¦we`¨vj‡qi AvBb wefv‡Mi Aa¨vcK| eZ©gv‡b †cÖl‡Y AvBb Kwgk‡bi m`m¨ wn‡m‡e `vwqZ¡ cvjb Ki‡Qb| bvix wel‡q †`wk-we‡`wk Rvb©v‡j Zuvi †ek wKQy wbeÜ cÖKvwkZ n‡q‡Q|
cÖ_g Av‡jv‡K †`Iqv Gg. kvn Avj‡gi mvÿvZKvi Avgv‡`i mgq WU K‡gi cvVK‡`i Rb¨ Zz‡j aiv n‡jv|
cÖkœ : evsjv‡`k hLb cvwK¯Ív‡bi Ask wQj, ZLb 1961 mv‡j cvwievwiK AvB‡b eo cwieZ©b Avbv nq| Gi m‡½ Zyjbv Kiv P‡j ¯^vaxb evsjv‡`‡k Ggb GKwU eo ms¯‹v‡ii bvg ejyb|
kvn Avjg : 1961 mv‡j gymwjg cvwievwiK AvB‡b †h eo cwieZ©b Avbv n‡qwQj, Zvi m‡½ Zyjbv Kiv hvq| Ggb †Kv‡bv eo AvBb nqwb| Z‡e bvixi AwaKvi msi¶Y K‡i mywcÖg †Kv‡U©i KvQ †_‡K Avgiv A‡bK ivq †c‡qwQ| DËivwaKvi wel‡q †Zgb ivq †bB| Z‡e AwffveKZ¡, †ndvRZ, `v¤úZ¨ m¤úK© cybiæ×vi, eûweevn m¤ú‡K© ivq Av‡Q| Gme‡K Avgiv hw` mswewae× iƒc w`‡Z cviZvg, Zvn‡j Ô61-Gi AMÖMwZi (weevn, ZvjvK I DËivwaKvi msµvšÍ) m‡½ Zyjbv Kiv †hZ| Z‡e mywcÖg †Kv‡U©i ivq †Zv GKai‡bi AvBb| Gme‡K Kxfv‡e wjwLZ AvB‡b iƒc †`Iqv hvq, AvBb Kwgkb †_‡K Avgiv 20 c…ôvi GKwU cÖwZ‡e`‡b miKvi‡K Zv e‡jwQ| wKš‘ miKvi GL‡bv e¨e¯’v †bqwb|
cÖkœ : Ky‡qZ, Igvb I cÖwZ‡ekx gvjØx‡ci g‡Zv †`‡ki weavb cweÎ †KviAvb-mybœvnm¤§Z—‡m K_v Avgiv †Zv Aek¨B ¯^xKvi Kie? ZvivI wmWIi ¸iæZ¡c~Y© weavb MÖnY K‡i‡Q|
kvn Avjg: wbðqB| GUv Ab¯^xKvh©|
cÖkœ : Zvn‡j evsjv‡`k †Kb we‡kl K‡i, wmWIi (Kb‡fbkb Ab w` Gwjwg‡bkb Ae Aj dg©m Ae wWmwµwg‡bkb A¨v‡MBb÷ DB‡gb) wØZxq Aby‡”Q`, †hLv‡b we`¨gvb RvZxq AvB‡b _vKv bvixi cÖwZ me ai‡bi ˆelg¨ evwZj Ki‡Z I me AvB‡b Zvi mg-AwaKvi‡K myi¶v w`‡Z e‡j‡Q, †m m¤ú‡K© AvcwË Rvwb‡q‡Q| eû gymwjg †`k hv K‡iwb, Zv †Kb K‡i‡Q evsjv‡`k? Zv Qvov evnvˇii msweavb †Zv wmWI‡Z cÖ`Ë IB GKB A½xKvi e¨³ K‡i‡Q|
kvn Avjg : Avwg eje GUv AÁZvcÖm~Z| Avgiv ZvB wi‡cv‡U© mycvwik K‡iwQ †h AšÍZ †mŠw` Avie I cvwK¯Ívb †hfv‡e Ae¯’vb wb‡q‡Q, Avgiv †hb †mfv‡e wbB| 1984 mv‡j hLb IB AvcwËmn evsjv‡`k wmWI mB Kij, ZLb Rvg©vwb, †ejwRqvg, myB‡Wb I †b`vij¨vÛm e‡jwQj, wØZxq Aby‡”Q` m¤ú‡K© G iKg AvcwËKvix †`‡ki Pyw³ mB‡qi AwaKvi †bB|
cÖkœ : mvgwiK kvm‡b †bIqv IB Ae¯’vb AvRI e`‡j †Mj bv|
kvn Avjg : wVK| wmWIi PviwU wel‡q AvcwË †`Iqv n‡qwQj| `ywU Zy‡j †bIqv n‡q‡Q| ¸iæZ¡c~Y© `ywUB evwK|
cÖkœ : Zvi gv‡b wK cÖKvivšÍ‡i GB `uvovj bv †h msm` Ges Av`vjZI wmWI‡Z iv‡óªi AvcwˇK wVK g‡b Ki‡Qb?
kvn Avjg : bv| Zuviv Zv g‡b Ki‡Qb ejv hv‡e bv|
cÖkœ : †mUv GB A‡_© ejv †h evnvˇii msweav‡b bvixi †h mg-AwaKvi wbwðZ K‡i‡Q, †mUv wmWIi IB weav‡bi m‡½ msNvZ m…wó K‡i bv| Zvn‡j?
kvn Avjg : n¨uv| †mfv‡e †`L‡j Zv-B `uvovq| AvBb Kwgkb hZ mycvwik K‡i‡Q, Zvi g‡a¨ me‡P‡q ¸iæZ¡c~Y© n‡jv cy‡Îi AeZ©gv‡b Kb¨vmšÍv‡bi Ask e…w× Ges wmWIi DwjøwLZ AvcwË cÖZ¨vnvi Kivi welq| GB `ywU wel‡qB Avgv‡`i AwfgZ DËg M‡elYvcÖm~Z| Avwg ga¨cÖvP¨, ga¨ Gwkqv, B‡›`v‡bwkqv—me ai‡bi`…óvšÍ w`‡q e‡jwQ †h IUv cÖZ¨vnvi Ki‡j †Kv‡bv ai‡bi j·Nb N‡U bv|
cÖkœ : wmWI‡Z ivLv iv‡óªi AvcwË bvixi msweavb cÖ`Ë †gŠwjK gvbevwaKvi‡K AvNvZ K‡i| Avi ZvB †mUv msweav‡bi †gŠwjK KvVv‡gv‡K AvNvZ nvb‡Q?
kvn Avjg : Avwg m¤ú~Y© GKgZ| Aek¨B wmWIi AvcwËUv evsjv‡`k msweav‡bi †gŠwjK KvVv‡gvweiæ×|
†`Lyb, wmWI ejyb Avi Kb¨vmšÍv‡bi m¤ú` e…w× ejyb, †Kv_vI cweÎ a‡g©i weavbvewji j·Nb †bB| Zvi ciI AvcwËUv wU‡K Av‡Q| `ytL cÖKvk Kiv Qvov Avgvi Avi wKQy ejvi †bB| AvwgI AevK nw”Q| Rb¯^v‡_© GZ gvgjv n‡jv| GUv †Kb n‡jv bv? GUv Awej‡¤^ P¨v‡jÄ n‡Z †`L‡j Avwg Lywk ne|
cÖkœ : wek¦ evsjv‡`‡ki wKQy kxl© ivR‰bwZK c‡` bvix †`L‡Q| A_P †mB †bZ…Z¡I bvixi AwaKv‡ii †¶Î e…wׇZ nvZ w`‡”Q bv| Gi DËiY Kxfv‡e?
kvn Avjg : Avm‡j mvgvwRK kw³i weKv‡ki `iKvi Av‡Q| miKvi¸‡jv fq cvq, †gŠjev`xiv Avevi Bmy¨ K‡i wK bv|
cÖkœ : GB fq KZUv cÖK…Z? ivRbxwZ‡Z Zviv †h Avcm K‡i, Zv †_‡K nq‡Zv GUvI wew”Qbœ bq|
kvn Avjg : Avwg †mw`bI GKRb gš¿x‡K ejjvg †h Avcbviv Lv‡gvLv fq cv‡”Qb| Zv‡`i †evSv‡Z n‡e †h cÖ¯ÍvweZ ms¯‹vi¸‡jv cweÎ ag©xq weav‡bi †Kv‡bv e¨Z¨q bq| G Rb¨ RbgZ ˆZwi‡Z nvZ w`‡Z n‡e| cÖavbgš¿x †kL nvwmbv wKš‘ mv‡eK AvBbgš¿x kwdK Avn‡g‡`i gva¨‡g AvBb Kwgk‡bi Kv‡Q Rvb‡Z †P‡qwQ‡jb †h Kb¨vmšÍvb‡`i m¤ú‡`i AvBbUv Kxfv‡e Kx Kiv hvq|
cÖkœ : Avcbvi mycvwik Kx wQj?
kvn Avjg : Avwg G wel‡q LyeB Mfxi I e¨vcK M‡elYv K‡i cÖwZ‡e`b w`‡qwQjvg| wbqg n‡jv wcZvi m¤úwË †Q‡j‡g‡q‡`i g‡a¨ †Zv fvM nq, Ab¨ivI wKQy cvq| g~j fvM mšÍvb‡`i| Kb¨v hv cvq, cyÎ Zvi wظY cvq| hw` KviI cyÎ bv _v‡K, †Kej Kb¨v _v‡K, Zvn‡j cy‡Îi AskUv Kb¨v wKQy cvq, evwK †ewki fvMB Ab¨‡`i Kv‡Q P‡j hvq| Avgv‡`i cÖ¯Íve wQj, cyÎ-Kb¨vi mw¤§wjZ †h AskUv, hw` cyÎ bv _v‡K Zvn‡j Zvi cy‡ivUvB Kb¨v cv‡e, Ab¨iv cv‡e bv| hyw³ n‡jv, Ab¨ hviv, Zv‡`i fvM †Zv _vK‡QB| Kb¨vmšÍvb‡K G iKgfv‡e wnm¨v †`Iqv A‡bK gymwjg †`k AvBb K‡i K‡i‡Q|
IB mg‡q gš¿xi civg‡k© Avwg G wel‡q wm×všÍ wb‡Z BmjvwgK dvD‡Ûk‡bi (Bdv) gnvcwiPvjK kvgxg AvdRvjmn †ek K‡qKRb gydwZ I gymwjg AvBbwe‡kl‡Ái m‡½ Av‡jvPbv Kwi| Zuviv gZ w`‡jb, GUv Kiv hv‡e bv| GUv ms‡e`bkxj welq|
cÖkœ : Bdv gnvcwiPvjK GKRb Kg©iZ †Rjv RR| wZwbI we‡ivwaZv K‡iwQ‡jb?
kvn Avjg : n¨uv| wZwb we‡ivwaZvKvix gydwZ‡`i m‡½ GKgZ n‡jb| Zuviv ej‡jb, gymwjg AvB‡b nvZ †`Iqv hv‡e bv| A_P eû gymwjg I Bmjvwg iv‡óª IB wbqg Pvjy Av‡Q|
bvix AwaKvi wel‡q Avgvi me‡P‡q cQ‡›`i cÖwZ‡e`b `ywU| GKwU wmWIi IB AvcwË Zy‡j †bIqv, Ab¨wU cÖavbgš¿xi Aby‡iv‡a Kb¨vmšÍv‡bi ¶gZvqb-msµvšÍ IB cÖ¯ÍvewU †`Iqv| AvBb Kwgk‡bi Ab¨ AviI eû cÖwZ‡e`‡bi g‡Zv G m¤ú‡K©I AvBb I wePvi gš¿Yvj‡qi WÖvdwUs DBs KwVb bxieZv cvjb Ki‡Q| Zviv Avgv‡`i A‡bK cÖwZ‡e`‡bi Lvg Ly‡j †`‡Lb wK bv, m‡›`n|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : miKvi GKwU bvix Dbœqb bxwZgvjv Ki‡ZB Avgiv weZK© †`‡LwQjvg| A_P †mwU AvBb wQj bv, Av`vj‡Zi gva¨‡g cÖ‡qvM‡hvM¨I wQj bv| Zvn‡j G iKg D‡`¨vM †Kb? ivR‰bwZK myweavev`?
cÖkœ : Avwg Zv eje bv| miKvi nq‡Zv wØavwš^Z, GKUy mgq wb‡”Q| cÖwZwµqv n‡e e‡j fq cv‡”Q| KviY, †gŠjev`xiv fyj †evSvq, GKUv fvev‡e‡Mi welqI RwoZ| Zviv ej‡e, GB †`‡Lv AvIqvgx jxM miKvi Avgv‡`i ag©xq AvBb e`‡j w`‡”Q| Aek¨ Zviv Ô61 mv‡jI e‡jwQj| evsjv‡`k †Zv GLb GKUv AwbwðZ mg‡qi ga¨ w`‡q hv‡”Q| RvgvqvZ I †ndvRwZiv h‡_ó kw³ mÂq K‡i‡Q| ZvB Avwg g‡b Kwi, miKvi hLb GUv cvi‡e, ZLbB nq‡Zv Zviv Ki‡e|
cÖkœ : bvixwelqK AvBbKvbyb Dbœq‡b MZ Qq eQ‡ii AMÖMwZi hw` GKUv msw¶ß g~j¨vqb K‡ib?
kvn Avjg : bvixi AwaKv‡ii DbœqbUv g~jZ GbwRI, wgwWqv, bvMwiK mgvR I Kg©Rxex‡`i nvZ a‡i G‡m‡Q| wewfbœfv‡e m‡PZbZvi cÖmvi N‡U‡Q| Avgiv Kwgkb †_‡K gymwjg AvB‡bi wZbwU, wn›`y I wLÖóvb AvB‡b `ywU cwieZ©‡bi cÖ¯Íve K‡iwQ| wKš‘ †Kv‡bvwUiB ev¯Íevqb †bB| wKQy †¶‡Î bZyb wbqgixwZ I evavwb‡la Av‡ivc Kiv n‡q‡Q| Z_¨ AwaKvi AvBbI mydj w`‡”Q| †hŠb nqivwb e‡Ü AvBb bv n‡jI mywcÖg †KvU© I gš¿Yvjq wb‡`©kbv w`‡q‡Q| bxwZgvjviI GKUv fv‡jv cÖfve i‡q‡Q| myZivs
bvixi AwaKvi cÖwZôvq AvB‡bi w`‡K G‡Kev‡iB wKQy N‡Uwb †mUv mwVK bq|
cÖkœ : bvixi cÖK…Z ¶gZvq‡bi RvqMvq †gŠwjK cwieZ©b G‡m‡Q wK bv?
kvn Avjg : †ZgbUv Av‡mwb|
cÖkœ : welqwU MYZš¿vq‡Yi m‡½I RwoZ| A‡bK †`k msm‡` wecyjmsL¨K bvix G‡b DbœwZ K‡i‡Q| A_P msiw¶Z Avmb †_‡K Avgiv bvix‡K gyw³ w`‡Z PvB bv|
kvn Avjg : MYZš¿vq‡Yi m‡½ bvixi ¶gZvq‡bi m¤úK© Aek¨B Av‡Q| G cÖm‡½ Zvn‡j Avcbv‡K GKwU †gŠwjK K_v ewj, evnvˇii msweav‡b 10 eQ‡ii Rb¨ 15wU bvix Avmb †`Iqv n‡qwQj| c‡i GUv ms‡kvab K‡i µgvMZ evov‡bv (2011 mv‡j 45 †_‡K 50-G DbœxZ) n‡q‡Q| GUv g~j msweav‡bi j·Nb|
cÖkœ : wePvicwZ G we Gg Lvqiæj n‡Ki m‡½ Avgiv GKgZ †h GUv ms‡kvab K‡i mgq evwo‡q wb‡Z msm‡`i GLwZqvi †bB|
kvn Avjg : wZwb GUv me mgq e‡jb Ges Avwg Zuvi m‡½ GKgZ| G e¨e¯’v _vKv DwPZ bq| bvix‡`i wbe©vwPZ n‡Z w`‡Z n‡e, Zvn‡jB bvixi cÖK…Z ¶gZvqb NU‡e| eZ©gvb AvB‡b ïay `‡ji me©¯Í‡ii KwgwU‡Z 2020 mv‡ji g‡a¨ GK-Z…Zxqvsk bvix‡K ¯’vb †`Iqvi K_v ejv Av‡Q| wKš‘ AvBb Ki‡Z n‡e, cÖ‡Z¨K `j hv‡Z wbw`©ó GKwU As‡ki Avm‡b bvix‡K g‡bvbqb w`‡Z eva¨ nq|
