Rb †eÖB_I‡qUA‡÷ªjxq Aa¨vcK W. Rb eÖvW‡dvW© †eÖB_I‡q‡Ui Rb¥ 1951 mv‡j| Ôme‡P‡q ¯^bvgab¨ AcivaZË¡we`‡`i Ab¨ZgÕ wn‡m‡e wZwb wek¦e¨vcx cwiwPZ| A‡÷ªjxq †jevi cvwU©i AvRxeb m`m¨| Acivawe`¨v-msµvšÍ eB wj‡L‡Qb GK WR‡bi †ewk| B›Uvib¨vkbvj †mvmvBwU Ae wµwg‡bvjwR Zuv‡K ÔjvBdUvBg Kw›UÖweDkb Uy wµwg‡bvjwRÕ cyi¯‹v‡i f~wlZ K‡i‡Q| †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m wel‡q evsjv‡`k miKvi, XvKv wek¦we`¨vjq, BD‡KGBW I Rvg©vb ms¯’v wRAvB‡RW Av‡qvwRZ GK †mwgbv‡i †hvM w`‡Z wZwb XvKvq Av‡mb| 18 AvM÷ wZwb †nv‡Uj †mvbviMuvI‡q cÖ_g Av‡jvi gy‡LvgywL nb|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m (Avi‡R) ev Av`vj‡Zi evB‡i we‡iva wb®úwËi weKí e¨e¯’v GKwU bZyb aviYv| 1977 mv‡j cÖ_g GB cwifvlv e¨envi Kiv nq| †Kb Avcwb g‡b K‡ib GUv evsjv‡`‡ki Rb¨ cÖ‡hvR¨ n‡e?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : K‡e cÖPjb, Zv wb‡q ZK© Av‡Q| Z‡e 77 mvj a‡i †bIqv P‡j| Avwg g‡b Kwi, evsjv‡`‡k Gi fv‡jv m¤¢vebv Av‡Q| AviwWAviGm bv‡gi GKwU msMVb BwZg‡a¨ Gi ev¯Íevq‡b mvdj¨ †`wL‡q‡Q| iscy‡i Avwg cwi`k©b K‡iwQ| Zv‡`i Kg©xiv LyeB cÖwkw¶Z| Avwg Avkvev`x, KviY Avwg †`‡LwQ, GUv BwZg‡a¨B KvR ïiæ K‡i w`‡q‡Q|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : evsjv‡`‡ki Ae¯’vi m‡½ wgj Av‡Q Ggb Avi †Kv_vq GUv Pvjy Av‡Q?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avgvi kn‡iI Avwg G wel‡q A‡bK cix¶v I M‡elYv K‡iwQ| mvd‡j¨i wel‡q Avgv‡`i nv‡Z A‡bK Z_¨-DcvË Av‡Q| A‡bK Dbœqbkxj †`‡kI G wb‡q M‡elYv n‡q‡Q| cvcyqv wbDwMwb GKwU fv‡jv D`vniY| Zviv G wel‡q GKwU RvZxq bxwZ MÖnY K‡i‡Q| Z‡e AwaKvsk †¶‡Î GB c×wZ GL‡bv DbœZ we‡k¦B cÖPwjZ Av‡Q| BD‡iv‡ci cÖwZwU †`‡k GB Kg©m~wP Pvjy Av‡Q| A‡÷ªwjqv, wbDwRj¨vÛ, KvbvWv, hy³iv‡óª GUv Av‡Q| Avevi wPwj I `w¶Y Av‡gwiKv‡ZI GUv mydj w`‡”Q| RvwZms‡Ni Ks‡MÖ‡m Aciva cÖwZ‡iv‡ai †KŠkj wb‡q 2000 mv‡j A‡bK weZK© n‡qwQj, ZLb †_‡K A‡bK †`k GB c×wZi w`‡K Syu‡K‡Q| evsjv‡`‡k GB c×wZi ïiæUv †hfv‡e n‡q‡Q, Zv wKš‘ A‡bK DbœZ †`‡ki m‡½ Zyjbxq|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : iæqvÛvq †Kb GUv e¨_© n‡q‡Q?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : †mLv‡b MYnZ¨v-cieZ©x cwiw¯’wZ‡Z A‡bK ai‡bi e¨e¯’vq we‡iva wb®úwËi †Póv n‡q‡Q| evsjv‡`‡k †hfv‡e ÔmvwjmÕ ev MÖvg Av`vjZ KvR K‡i, †mLv‡b ZviI cÖ‡qvM N‡U‡Q| Avi‡R wKQy †¶‡Î Kvh©Ki n‡q‡Q, wKQy †¶‡Î nqwb| Z‡e GUv ¯^xK…Z n‡q‡Q, HwZn¨MZ †h Aciva wePvie¨e¯’v wQj, Zvi †P‡q weKí e¨e¯’v †ewk mydj w`‡q‡Q| iæqvÛvi AwfÁZvi Av‡jv‡K Avcbv‡`i Ae¯’v ch©v‡jvPbv Kiv P‡j| Avcbv‡`i GLb cÖvq 30 jvL gvgjvi RU †j‡M Av‡Q| we`¨gvb e¨e¯’vq Gi myivnv PvB‡j AšÍZ GK kZvãx †j‡M hv‡e| †mvqv jvL †jvK iæqvÛvi MYnZ¨vq Ask wb‡qwQj| cÖPwjZ wePvie¨e¯’vi c‡¶ GB wecyj Awfhy³ e¨w³i wePvi Kiv m¤¢e wQj bv| 10 eQ‡ii †ewk mgq webv wePv‡i wecyjmsL¨K †jvK K‡q`Lvbvq w`b KvwU‡q‡Q| webv wePv‡i e›`x _vKv wecyjmsL¨K wkï iæqvÛvi KvivMv‡i gviv †M‡Q| †mLv‡b cÖgvwYZ n‡q‡Q, cvðvZ¨ auv‡Pi cÖPwjZ wePv‡ii †P‡q Avi‡R A‡bK fv‡jv dj w`‡q‡Q, hw`I GB e¨e¯’vi e¨_©Zvi K_vI Avwg ¯^xKvi Kwi|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : Avgv‡`i †`‡k MÖvg Av`vjZ djcÖm~ bv n‡j Avi‡R †Kb djcÖm~ n‡e fve‡Qb? Zv Qvov wgwgwµ ev AbyKiY Kivi mgm¨v Av‡Q, A_©vr Avcbvi †`‡k Pj‡Q e‡j AvgivI Pvjv‡Z cvie, Zv bv-I n‡Z cv‡i| Avcbvi mvgvwRK I ivR‰bwZK Ae¯’vi m‡½ Avgv‡`i wgj †bB| ZvB cÖkœ n‡jv AbyKi‡Yi SyuwK m‡Ë¡I †Kb ej‡Qb GUv KvR †`‡e?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avwg Rvwb, G †`‡k MÖvg Av`vjZ fv‡jv Pj‡Q bv| Avgv‡K ejv n‡q‡Q, BDGbwWwc MÖvg Av`vjZ cybiæ¾xe‡bi Rb¨ KvR Ki‡Q| Avi, AbyKi‡Yi SyuwK Avwg bvKP Kie bv| Z‡e Avcbv‡`i g‡Zv AvgivI GKB Kgb j AbymiY KiwQ| Avevi GI mZ¨, A‡÷ªwjqvq Avgiv †hfv‡e Avi‡R AbymiY K‡i P‡jwQ, †mfv‡e wKš‘ evsjv‡`‡kiUv n‡”Q bv| GLv‡b wfbœ cÖwµqvq NU‡Q| Avevi Bsj¨v‡Ûi †_‡KI A‡÷ªwjqvi Avi‡R wfbœ| myZivs, Avgiv AbyKiY KiwQ bv| evsjv‡`‡kI Avcbviv Ki‡Qb bv| Avcbv‡`i mvwjm I MÖvg Av`vj‡Zi HwZn¨ Av‡Q| Avcbv‡`i wb‡R‡`i AwfÁZv I cwi‡e‡ki Av‡jv‡KB GKUv ¯^Zš¿ ˆewkó¨gwÐZ †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m m…wó Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : Avcwb †hUv ej‡Qb, †mUvI GKUv Aëvi‡bwUf wWmwcDU †iRy‡jkb (GwWAvi)| GwWAvi hw` GL‡bv e¨_© _v‡K, Zvn‡j †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m †Kb KvR †`‡e?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avcbv‡`i 30 jv‡Li RU †Zv Kg‡Q bv| `ªæZ wePvi UÖvBey¨bv‡jI †Zv †Zgb wKQy `ªæZ wePvi w`‡”Q bv| GB †cÖ¶vc‡UB AviwWAviGm I gv`vixcyi ga¨¯’Zv g‡Wj KvR Ki‡Q| Avcbv‡`i KvivMvi¸‡jv wf‡oi mgm¨vq AvµvšÍ| wRAvBGm I wRAvB‡R‡Wi mnvqZvcyó GKwU cÖKí 2014 mv‡j nv‡Z †bIqv n‡q‡Q| MZ cÖvq GK eQ‡i cÖvq mvZ nvRvi e›`x, hv‡`i KvivMv‡i _vKvi K_v wQj bv, Zv‡`i wel‡q GKUv myivnv w`‡Z cviv GKwU D‡jøL‡hvM¨ AMÖMwZ| iæqvÛv‡Z †`Lv †M‡Q, 10 eQi a‡i Ggb †jvK KvivMv‡i wQj, hvi `ÐcÖvß nIqvi Av‡`Š †Kv‡bv m¤¢vebv wQj bv| GKRb ch©‡e¶K wn‡m‡e Avwg Avcbv‡`i mgm¨v‡K †hfv‡e †`wL, Zv n‡jv KvivMv‡ii cÖvq 70 kZvsk †jvK `ÐcÖvß bv n‡q Ae¯’vb Ki‡Q| GLb iæqvÛvi K_v fveyb| cÖPwjZ Aciva wePvie¨e¯’v KvR Ki‡Q bv| myZivs, weKí e¨e¯’v n‡jv G Ae¯’v †_‡K †ewi‡q Avmv| Avwg Avcbv‡`i gvVch©v‡q K_v e‡jwQ| Zviv mvwjm ev BDwbqb cwil‡`i (BDwc) †Pqvig¨v‡bi kiYvcbœ n‡q we‡iva †gUv‡Z AvMÖn †`wL‡q‡Qb|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : Avgv‡`i ivR‰bwZK I mvgvwRK Ae¯’vq wK Acivax I fy³‡fvMx‡`i g‡a¨ Av`vj‡Zi evB‡i Avcmidvi Rb¨ mnvqK, bvwK evav m…wó K‡i?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avwg g‡b Kwi, A‡÷ªwjqvq Avgiv †hUv Pvjy K‡iwQ, Zvi †P‡q Avcbv‡`i cwi‡ek DbœZ| KviY, †ewki fvM KvR †¯^”Qv‡mexiv Ki‡Qb| †`Lyb, cÖwZwU mgv‡Ri ivR‰bwZK-mvgvwRK cUf~wg Avjv`v| Avcbviv KvivMv‡i 70 kZvsk †jvK †i‡L‡Qb, hviv `wÐZ bq| Avcbv‡`i Av‡Q 30 jvL wePvivaxb gvgjv| Avi Aciva n‡jB gvbyl cywj‡ki Kv‡Q †Qv‡U, †hUv A‡bK †`‡k Gfv‡e †`Lv hvq bv| myZivs, Ab¨vb¨ †`‡ki Zyjbvq Avcbv‡`i GKwU e…nËi cÖwµqvi ga¨ w`‡q †h‡Z n‡e| GUv gxgvswmZ †h Av`vj‡Zi evB‡i we‡iva †gUv‡Z LiP Kg, mgqI A‡bK Kg jv‡M| iscy‡i BDwc †Pqvig¨vb cÖwZ g½jevi weKí Av`vjZ †_‡K `ªæZ myivnv w`‡”Qb| 30 jvL SyjšÍ gvgjvi †ewki fvMB MÖvg †_‡K G‡m‡Q| Avgv‡K A‡b‡KB e‡j‡Qb, e‡qv‡R¨ô‡`i w`‡q mvwjwmi †h cÖvPxb weavb wQj, Zv A‡bK Kvh©Ki I DËg wQj|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : nZ¨v, al©‡Yi g‡Zv eo ai‡bi gvbevwaKvi j·N‡bi NUbv‡ZI wK Avc‡mi c_ †e‡Q †bIqvi mycvwik Ki‡eb?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : GUv evsjv‡`‡ki RbM‡Yi Ici wbf©i K‡i| Zviv Av‡jvPbv Ki‡Z cv‡i| iæqvÛv‡Z MYnZ¨vi †¶‡ÎI GUv AbymiY Kiv n‡q‡Q|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : N…Y¨ Aciv‡ai `v‡q g„Zy¨`Ð AvB‡bi kvm‡bi kZ© c~i‡Y KZUv mnvqK?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avwg kvw¯Íi weiæ‡× bB; g„Zy¨`‡Ði wec‡¶| †h‡Kv‡bv †cÖ¶vc‡U g„Zy¨`Ð †Kv‡bv fv‡jv aviYv bq|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : Avcwb wK g‡b K‡ib, iv‡óªi wm×v‡šÍi evB‡i MYnZ¨vq fy³‡fvMx cwievi¸‡jvi †gŠwjK AwaKvi Av‡Q †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m MÖnY Kivi?
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avgiv G wel‡q A·‡dv‡W© GKwU m‡¤§jb K‡iwQjvg| ¶gv Kivi my‡hvM Av‡QB| Avwg wek¦vm Kwi, Kg Acivag~jK GKwU mgvR MV‡b ¶gvkxjZv AZ¨šÍ ¸iæZ¡c~Y©| XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi gb¯ÍË¡ wefv‡Mi GwjRv Avn‡g` A‡÷ªwjqvi b¨vkbvj wek¦we`¨vj‡q Avgvi Aax‡b (1998 mv‡j) wcGBPwW K‡iwQ‡jb| wZwb GLb GKRb †R¨ô GKv‡WwgK| wZwb Ges Avwg wg‡j evsjv‡`wk mgv‡Ri ¶gvkxjZvi Ici GKwU M‡elYv K‡iwQjvg| wZwb XvKvi `yB nvRvi ¯‹yjwkïi Ici eywjBs (nqivwb) wel‡q mgx¶v Pvjvb| wZwb †`Lvb, evsjv‡`wk wkï hviv ¶gv Ki‡Z wk‡L‡Q Ges ¶gvcÖvß n‡q‡Q, Zviv eywjs‡qi wkKvi I wkKvwi Kg n‡q‡Q| Zv‡`i g‡a¨ Kg mwnsm cÖeYZv n‡Z †`Lv †M‡Q| Avcwb Avgvi Kv‡Q †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷m cÖPj‡b GKwU mgv‡Ri KvVv‡gvMZ kZ© m¤ú‡K© Rvb‡Z †P‡q‡Qb| Avwg GUv ej‡Z cvwi, evsjv‡`k mgv‡Ri †hgb mwnsm cÖeYZv Av‡Q, †Zgwb ¶gvkxjZvi cÖeYZvI Av‡Q| Avgvi gZ n‡jv, A‡÷ªwjqvi gvby‡li †P‡q evsjv‡`wk‡`i ¶gvkxjZvi kw³ A‡bK †ewk|
cÖ_g Av‡jv : DËi Avqvij¨vÛ ¶gvkxjZvi gva¨‡g †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷‡mi GKwU weivU `…óvšÍ ¯’vcb K‡i‡Q| gšÍe¨ Kiæb|
Rb †eÖB_I‡qU : Avwg Uwb †eøqv‡ii ¸YMÖvnx bB| wKš‘ Zuvi kvm‡bi my›`iZg gyn~Z© n‡jv, hLb wZwb AvBwik wicvewjKvb Avwg©i (AvBAviG) mš¿vmx‡`i Kvivgy³ K‡i kvwšÍ cÖwµqvq kvwgj Kivi D‡`¨vM †bb| GUv mnR wQj bv| G Rb¨ ivR‰bwZK cÖÁv I mvnm `iKvi| Biv‡K wZwb cv‡ibwb, DËi Avqvij¨v‡Û †c‡i‡Qb| wKQyw`b Av‡M †hLv‡b i³ S‡i‡Q, †i‡÷v‡iwUf Rvw÷‡mi Kvi‡Y †m AÂj GLb emev‡mi Rb¨ AwaK wbivc`| Z‡e GB c×wZ AbymiY Ki‡Z evsjv‡`‡ki Avï j¶¨ n‡jv MÖvgevmxi Rxe‡b wePvi wbwðZ Kiv, MÖv‡gB †ewk gvby‡li evm, Avi Zv‡`i Rxe‡bB wePv‡ii my‡hvM jv‡f weivU NvUwZ Pj‡Q| Gi Av‡iKwU cÖavb j¶¨ n‡jv KvivMv‡i wePviewÂZ gvby‡li wfo Kgv‡bv| cÖ_g Av‡jv
mv¶vrKvi wb‡q‡Qb wgRvbyi ingvb Lvb