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cÖkœ : 2014 mv‡ji 5 Rvbyqvwi AbywôZ wbe©vP‡bi ci †_‡K MZ GK eQi †`k †hfv‡e P‡j‡Q, †m m¤ú‡K© Avcbvi g~j¨vqb Kx?
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cÖkœ : wKš‘ wbe©vPbwU †hfv‡e AbywôZ n‡q‡Q, †mUv‡K wK ¯^vfvweK MYZvwš¿K wbe©vPb ejv †h‡Z cv‡i? IB wbe©vP‡bi gva¨‡g miKvi wK RbM‡Yi ch©vß g¨v‡ÛU †c‡q‡Q?
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cÖkœ : wKš‘ GB GK eQ‡i mykvm‡bi Ab¨vb¨ w`‡Ki wPÎ †Zv fv‡jv bq| †hgb, MZ GK eQ‡i ¸g-Lyb, wePviewnf©~Z nZ¨vKvÐ BZ¨vw` †e‡o‡Q, AvBbk…•Ljv i¶vKvix evwnbxi m`m¨‡`i AcniY I nZ¨vi g‡Zv ¸iæZi Aciv‡ai m‡½ Rwo‡q co‡Z †`Lv †M‡Q| miKv‡ii RbM‡Yi g¨v‡ÛU bv _vKvi m‡½ wK Gm‡ei †Kv‡bv m¤úK© †_‡K _vK‡Z cv‡i?
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cÖkœ : †hgb?
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cÖkœ : wKš‘ G ai‡bi Ae¯’v‡K wK cÖK…Zc‡¶ w¯’wZkxj I †UKmB ejv †h‡Z cv‡i? GB AvcvZ-w¯’wZkxjZv KZ w`b wUK‡e? mgvR I ivRbxwZ‡Z GKai‡bi ¸‡gvU Ae¯’v wK †Ui cvIqv hv‡”Q bv?
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cÖkœ : Zvn‡j hw` GKUv †gvUvgywU wµqvkxj MYZvwš¿K e¨e¯’v Pvjy _vKZ, Zvn‡j Avgiv †Kv_vq †hZvg?
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cÖkœ : l me `‡ji AskMÖn‡Yi wfwˇZ kvwšÍc~Y©fv‡e ¶gZvi nvZe`‡ji GKUv e¨e¯’v †Zv Avgv‡`i wQj| ZË¡veavqK miKvie¨e¯’vi AvIZvq wZbevi mevi AskMÖn‡Yi wfwˇZ wbe©vPb n‡q‡Q Ges kvwšÍc~Y©fv‡e ¶gZv n¯ÍvšÍwiZ n‡q‡Q| †mB e¨e¯’v evwZj Kivi d‡jB †Zv ivR‰bwZK msKU m…wó n‡q‡Q|
nviæb-Ai-iwk` GKUv †gŠwjK cÖkœ Zy‡j‡Qb Avcwb| G welqwU fvmv fvmvfv‡e †`L‡j †evSv hv‡e bv| GUv eyS‡Z n‡j evsjv‡`‡ki ivRbxwZi MwZavivi Mfx‡i †h‡Z n‡e| evsjv‡`‡ki ivRbxwZi cÖavb `ywU wefw³ 1971 I 1975 mvj‡K †K›`Ö K‡i|
cÖkœ : GKvˇi †Zv †MvUv RvwZ HK¨e× n‡q gyw³hy× K‡iwQj| ZLb †Zv †Kv‡bv wefw³ wQj bv|
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cÖkœ : G¸‡jvi m‡½ 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vP‡bi wK †Kv‡bv m¤úK© wQj? Gme Kvi‡Y wK AvIqvgx jxM GKZidv wbe©vPb K‡i‡Q?
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cÖkœ : wKš‘ ivRbxwZ‡Z †h APjve¯’vi m…wó n‡q‡Q, Zv Aemv‡bi c_ Kx?
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cÖkœ : Zvn‡j mgvavb Kx?
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cÖkœ : Zvn‡j †hfv‡e Pj‡Q, †mfv‡eB Pj‡e? wKš‘ Avi KZ w`b?
nviæb-Ai-iwk` Avgvi g‡b nq, GB cÖwµqv AviI A‡bK w`b Pj‡e|
cÖkœ : wKš‘ we‡ivax `‡ji †h Ae‡iva ïiæ n‡q‡Q, Gfv‡e †Zv †ewk w`b Pj‡Z cv‡i bv|
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