Ô5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb `yb©xwZ Qwo‡q w`‡”QÕ

†W¯‹ wi‡cvU© : W. kvn`xb gvwjK| wewkó AvBbRxex| cwiPvjK, ¯‹yj Ae j-eª¨vK wek¦we`¨vjq| Pjgvb ivRbxwZ, mgvR, ivóª wb‡q gy‡LvgywL nb mvßvwnK-Gi| 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb RvwZ‡K AÜKv‡i wb‡q‡Q e‡j gZ †`b| ivóª, mgv‡Ri KvVv‡gv B‡Zvg‡a¨B †f‡O c‡o‡Q e‡j D‡jøL K‡ib| G‡Z Pigcš’vi DÌvb NU‡Z cv‡i e‡j Avk¼v cÖKvk K‡ib| mv¶vrKviwU Avgv‡`imgq WUK‡gi cvVK‡`i Rb¨ Zz‡j aiv n‡jv-

mvßvwnK : cÖavbgš¿xi RbcÖkvmb Dc‡`óv GBP wU Bgvg e‡j‡Qb, wbe©vPb ZvivB K‡i‡Qb| Zvi Kiv QvÎjx‡Mi c‡¶i gš—e¨ wb‡qI mgv‡jvPbvi So eB‡Q| Avcwb Kxfv‡e †`L‡Qb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : cÖRvZ‡š¿i Kg©KZ©viv `‡ji Kg©KZ©v n‡q KvR K‡i‡Qb, GBP wU Bgvg mv‡n‡ei e³‡e¨ Zv cÖgvY n‡q †M‡Q| GB Avk¼v †_‡KB 1995 mv‡j AvIqvgx jxM ZË¡veavqK miKv‡ii `vwe‡Z Av‡›`vjb K‡iwQj| GKB `vwe‡Z weGbwc I Zvi kwiK `j¸‡jvI Av‡›`vjb Ki‡Q| GBP wU Bgv‡gi e³e¨ hw` wVK nq, Zvn‡j weGbwc †Rv‡Ui Av‡›`vj‡bi b¨vh¨Zv Av‡Q| myZivs fwel¨‡Z Aeva, wbi‡c¶ wbe©vPb `jxq miKv‡ii Aax‡b cve bv, GwU Av‡iKevi cÖgvY n‡jv|
GBP wU Bgvg mv‡n‡ei e³‡e¨i Av‡iKwU w`K n‡”Q, cÖRvZ‡š¿i Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvix n‡Z n‡j miKvi `jxq msMV‡bi AbyMZ n‡Z n‡e| GwU G‡Kev‡i msweavb cwicš’x K_v| Gi Rb¨ `j wn‡m‡e AvIqvgx jxM‡K eo ai‡bi †LmviZ w`‡Z n‡e e‡j g‡b Kwi| ejv Ges Kv‡R Ggb †¯^”QvPvwiZvi Kvi‡YB ivóªxq KvVv‡gv¸‡jv †f‡O co‡Q|
mvßvwnK : gš¿x‡`i jvfRbK cÖwZôv‡b `vwqZ¡ cvj‡bi NUbv cyi‡bv| m¤úÖwZ Avcwb GB Awf‡hv‡M wZb Rb gš¿xi wei“‡× DwKj †bvwUk cvwV‡q‡Qb| GLb †Kb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : n¨uv, welqwU cyi‡bv| wKš‘ m¤úÖwZ GKwU ˆ`wb‡K G wb‡q wi‡cvU© nq| †h Pvi gš¿xi wei“‡× wi‡cvU© nq, Zv‡`i g‡a¨ wZbRbB jvfRbK cÖwZôv‡b cwiPvjbv cl©‡` †Pqvig¨vb c‡` `vwqZ¡ cvj‡bi K_v ¯^xKvi K‡ib| Av‡iKRb cvwbm¤ú`gš¿x Avwbmyj Bmjvg gvngy‡`i m‡½ IB mvsevw`K †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡Z cv‡ibwb| wgwWqvi Kv‡Q ¯^xKvi Kivi ci welqwU Avjv`v Av‡e`b iv‡L| AvwgI †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jvi I‡qemvB‡U cÖ‡ek K‡i †`Ljvg, NUbv mZ¨| G Kvi‡YB Avwg DwKj †bvwUk cvwV‡qwQ| GKw`‡K gš¿x, Ab¨w`‡K e¨emv cÖwZôv‡b `vwq‡Z¡ _vKv hvq bv|
mvßvwnK : AvB‡b Kx ejv Av‡Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : iv‡óª mvsweavwbK AvUwU c` Av‡Q| Gig‡a¨ gš¿x, cÖwZgš¿x Ges Dcgš¿xivI i‡q‡Qb| GB AvUwU c‡` `vwq‡Z¡ _vKv e¨w³iv †Kv‡bv cÖKvi jvfRbK e¨emvq _vK‡Z cvi‡eb bv, Zv msweavb msi¶Y K‡i| Gme c‡` `vwqZ¡ wb‡Z kc_ wb‡qB A½xKvie× nb| GKBfv‡e miKvwi Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvix‡`i †ejvqI Ggb weavb i‡q‡Q| GLv‡b AviI K‡VviZv Aej¤^b Kiv n‡q‡Q| miKvwi c‡` _vKv e¨w³‡`i ¯¿xivI †Kv‡bv e¨emvcÖwZôv‡b m¤ú…³ n‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
mvßvwnK : A‡b‡KB m¤ú…³ i‡q‡Qb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : Zviv wewa j·Nb K‡iB e¨emv Ki‡Qb| Z‡e miKv‡ii we‡kl Aby‡gv`b mv‡c‡¶ ¯¿xiv e¨emv Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †hgb ¯¿xi e¨emvqx evev gviv †M‡j miKv‡ii Aby‡gv`b wb‡q wZwb e¨emvi nvj ai‡Z cv‡ib| GwU G‡Kev‡i cyi‡bv weavb| Avwg GB RvqMv †_‡KB ZvwM` Abyfe K‡i wZb gš¿xi Kv‡Q DwKj †bvwUk cvwV‡qwQ|
mvßvwnK : GB †bvwU‡ki ¸i“Z¡ KZUyKy?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : msweavb m‡e©v”P AvBb| †mB AvB‡bi Av‡jv‡KB Avwg †bvwU‡k gš¿xi c` †_‡K Zv‡`i m‡i `uvov‡bvi Aby‡iva K‡iwQ| Avwg e‡jwQ, m‡i bv `uvov‡j h_vh_ cÖwµqvq gvgjv Kiv n‡e| Z‡e Avwg g‡b Kwi, DwKj †bvwUkB Zv‡`i Rb¨ h‡_ó| KviY msweavb n‡”Q f`Ö‡jvK‡`i e¨vcvi| GLv‡b ivóªcwZ, wePvicwZ, gš¿x‡`i K_v, KvR wb‡q ejv Av‡Q| †KD fyj Ki‡j Ges †mB fyj †KD awi‡q w`‡j ¯^vfvweK cÖZ¨vkv n‡”Q IB c` †_‡K c`Z¨vM Kiv| AvwgI †mB cÖZ¨vkv KiwQ| G Kvi‡YB Avwg GLbI gvgjv Kwiwb| GwU G‡Kev‡iB mnR gvgjv Ges Gi djvdj m¤ú‡K© mevB Rvwb|
mvßvwnK : e¨emvcÖwZôvb †_‡K c`Z¨vM Ki‡j gwš¿Z¡ envj _vK‡e wK bv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : gš¿xi c` †_‡KB c`Z¨vM Ki‡Z n‡e| KviY, gš¿x n‡q wZwb msweavb j·Nb K‡i‡Qb| cÖvq GK eQi a‡i Zviv msweavb j·Nb K‡i Pj‡Qb| e¨emv wZwb Ki‡ZB cv‡ib, wKš‘ gš¿xi c‡` †_‡K bq| GwU †h fyj Zv awi‡q w`‡ZB †bvwUk cvwV‡qwQ|
mvßvwnK : Av‡`Š wK fyj? bvwK †R‡bï‡bB `yB c‡` _vKv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : iv‡óª AvBb Agvb¨ Kivi cÖeYZv evo‡Q| eZ©gvb miKv‡ii Avg‡j GB cÖeYZv Avk¼vRbKfv‡e e…w× cv‡”Q| Gi †cQ‡b wKQy KviY i‡q †M‡Q| 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb Zvi Ab¨Zg| 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb mwVK, Gi †P‡q eo wg_¨vPvi Avi n‡Z cv‡i bv| miKv‡ii †jvKRb †mB wg_¨vPviB wbqwgZ K‡i hv‡”Qb| 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb Avcwb QK euvav AvB‡bi †dÖ‡g †dj‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ ˆbwZK cÖ‡kœ GKwU wkïI GB wbe©vP‡bi ˆeaZv wb‡q cÖkœ Zyj‡Z cv‡i| wbe©vPb myôy n‡q‡Q, Ggb Wvnv wg_¨vi Ici fi K‡i miKvi hLb e‡j †h, RbMY Zv‡`i cuvP eQi ¶gZvq _vKvi ivq w`‡q‡Q, ZLb AvB‡bi †h‡Kv‡bv weavb j·Nb KivB Zv‡`i c‡¶ mnR n‡q hvq| Gi AvjvgZ B‡Zvg‡a¨B j¶Yxq| cÖv_wgK ev gva¨wgK cix¶vi cÖkœcÎI duvm n‡”Q| wek¦we`¨vjq fwZ©‡ZI RvwjqvwZ n‡”Q| me©ÎB RvwjqvwZi QovQwo| Avwg †Rvi K‡iB eje, 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb `yb©xwZ Qwo‡q w`‡”Q|
mvßvwnK : Zvi gv‡b 5 Rvbyqvwii Ggb GKwU wbe©vP‡bi Kvi‡YB gwš¿Z¡, kc_ ev e¨emvi †¶‡Î msweavb ¸i“Z¡ cv‡”Q bv|
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb †m iKg cwi‡ek-cwiw¯’wZB ˆZwi K‡i‡Q| AvBb Ges ˆbwZKZv Avjv`v `ywU welq| ˆbwZK †eva bv _vK‡j AvBb j·Nb Kiv ¯^vfvweK e¨vcvi n‡q `uvovq| IB wbe©vPb AvBb j·Nb Kivi †¶Î ˆZwi K‡i‡Q| KviY ˆbwZK cÖ‡kœ wbe©vPbwUB A‰ea| d‡j Mv‡qi †Rv‡iB A‡bK wKQy Ki‡Z PvB‡e miKvi Ges Ki‡QI Zv-B|
mvßvwnK : ZvB hw` nq, Zvn‡j Avcbvi DwKj †bvwU‡kiB Kx ¸i“Z¡ Av‡Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : ¸i“Z¡ †`‡eB, Avwg Zv g‡b Kwi bv| wKš‘ mgvR †h †f‡O co‡e Zv Abygvb Kiv hv‡”Q| cvwK¯—vb †_‡K cwð‡gi A‡bK gymwjg †`‡kB ivóªxq KvVv‡gv, mgvR †f‡O c‡o‡Q| AvR †_‡K 5 wK 10 eQi Av‡M IB me †`kI AvB‡bi †Zvqv°v K‡iwb| Rbfvebv‡K ¸i“Z¡ †`qwb| GLb Avi wbqš¿‡Y †bB| Rbfvebv ¸i“Z¡ bv †c‡j evsjv‡`kI †m c‡_ †h‡Z eva¨ n‡e| Avgv‡`i Avk¼v GB RvqMv‡ZB| KvD‡K bv KvD‡K †Zv K_v ej‡Z nq| GZ msNv‡Zi ciI wmwiqvq GKwU wbe©vPb n‡jv| hw`I Avmv‡`i c‡¶ ivq wM‡q‡Q| Gic‡iI wek¦gnj IB wbe©vPb wb‡q Ggb cÖkœ †Zv‡jwb, †hgb cÖkœ Zy‡j‡Q evsjv‡`‡ki 5 Rvbyqvwii wbe©vPb wb‡q|
mvßvwnK : miKviI my‡L Av‡Q, RbMYI iv¯—vq †bB| mgvR †f‡O †h‡Z cv‡i Ggb Avk¼v †Kb Ki‡Qb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : miKvi my‡L Av‡Q, Zv ïay gy‡L e‡j| miKv‡ii †fZ‡i A‡bK Aw¯’iZv| ivóªxq KvVv‡gv¸‡jv †f‡O co‡Q| `yb©xwZ `gb Kwgkb A_e©| †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡Q bv| †hb, `yb©xwZevR‡`i wb‡`©vl cÖgvY Ki‡ZB `y`K MVb Kiv n‡q‡Q| wbe©vPb Kwgkb miKv‡ii AvÁven| wbj©¾fv‡e miKv‡ii G‡RÛv ev¯—evqb K‡i Pj‡Q| GKRb cvMjI eZ©gvb wbe©vPb Kwgk‡bi cÖwZ Av¯’v ivL‡Z cv‡i bv| †lvok ms‡kvabxi ga¨ w`‡q wePvi wefv‡Mi nvZ-cv †eu‡a †djv n‡”Q| gvbyl mwVK wePvi cv‡e bv, GwU a‡iB wb‡”Q| cywj‡ki bvg ïb‡jB gvbyl Mvwj †`q, Gwo‡q P‡j| iv‡óªi KvVv‡gv G¸‡jvB Ges Zv †f‡OI co‡Q| GB aviYv Avgvi GKvi bq, mgv‡Ri mevB Rv‡b|
mvßvwnK : Gi m‡½ wgwj‡q wk¶v e¨e¯’v wb‡q Kx ej‡eb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : ˆbwZKZvi me©bvk Ki‡Q f½yi wk¶v e¨e¯’v| D”Pwk¶v cÖwZôvb¸‡jvi w`‡K ZvKvb| †`L‡eb, †mLv‡b wk¶vi cÖwZ‡hvwMZvi †P‡q A‡¯¿i cÖwZ‡hvwMZv A‡bK †ewk| cy‡iv K¨v¤úvm miKvwi QvÎ msMV‡bi Kv‡Q wRw¤§| Qv·`i mš¿v‡m wk¶KivI Rwo‡q co‡Q| †Kv‡bv cvwÐZ¨ †bB| QvÎ ev wk¶K‡`i †KD Avi e…wË wb‡q Avš—R©vwZK A½‡b Ae`vb ivL‡Z cvi‡Q bv| D”Pwk¶vi g‡Zv RvqMvq PvUyKvwiZvq ficyi| gvwdqv ai‡bi Lei Av‡m wek¦we`¨vjq¸‡jv †_‡K| Ggb Aw¯’iZv †Zv me©ÎB|
mvßvwnK : miKvi †Zv e¨e¯’vI wb‡”Q| †hgb, `y`‡Ki gvgjvq miKvi`jxq mvsm` KvivMv‡i| GZ A‡bK eo `…óvš—?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : e¨v‡jÝ Kivi Rb¨ A‡bK wKQyB Ki‡Z nq| we‡ivax `‡ji G‡KK Rb †bZvi wei“‡× cÂv‡ki AwaK gvgjv| †mLv‡b K·evRv‡ii GK mvsm`‡K AvUK K‡i miKvi fvimvg¨ †`Lv‡Z PvB‡Q| wKš‘ Gme †jvK †`Lv‡bv, Zv mevB Rvwb| cywjk cÖkvmb Kx bMœfv‡e KvR Ki‡Q, Zv meviB Rvbv| cywj‡ki Ggb bMœZv BwZc~‡e© KL‡bv †`Lv hvqwb| mwPevj‡qi Kv‡Q GKwU cyi‡bv gqjvi Mvwo †cvov‡bv gvgjvq hLb weGbwci fvicÖvß gnvmwPe‡KI Avmvwg Kiv nq, ZLb cywjk Ges wePvi wefv‡Mi cÖwZ RbAv¯’vq am bv‡g| cywjk‡K w`‡q hLb Ggb GKwU wg_¨v gvgjv †Rvi K‡i Kiv‡bv nq, ZLb Zvi wb‡Ri `vq fy‡j hvq| Ggb Ki‡Z Ki‡Z †h †Kv‡bv Aciva KivB cywj‡ki ¯^vfvweK n‡q hvq| M‡Z© covi cÖ_g wmuwo †f‡O †M‡Q| mgvR †h‡Kv‡bv mgq M‡Z© co‡e|
mvßvwnK : Ggb Aw¯’iZvi c‡iI †Zv †`k, mgvR GwM‡q hv‡”Q? miKvi †Zv ga¨ Av‡qi †`‡k wb‡q hvIqvi K_v ej‡Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : †`k GwM‡q hv‡”Q Kv‡`i Ae`v‡b †mUv we‡eP¨ welq| miKvi bv ej‡jI gvbyl e‡m _v‡K bv| gvbyl GwM‡q hvq| GLv‡b miKv‡ii D”QwmZ nIqvi wKQy †bB| eis miKvi¸‡jvi evavi Kvi‡YB gvbyl h_vm¤¢e GwM‡q †h‡Z cvi‡Q bv| evsjv‡`k 2021 mv‡j ga¨ Av‡q Ges 2041 mv‡j DbœZ †`‡k cwiYZ n‡e e‡j †h ¯^cœ †`Lv‡bv n‡”Q, Zvi Av‡M mykvmb wb‡q K_v ejv DwPZ| AvwdÖKvi A‡bK †`‡ki miKvi 50 eQi Av‡M †_‡K Ggb ¯^cœ †`wL‡q Avm‡Q| wKš‘ Zviv µgvš^‡q wcwQ‡q co‡Q| MYZš¿ †bB A_P GwM‡q hv‡”Q, Avcwb Pxb ev‡` Av‡iKwU †`k‡K †`Lvb? mykvmb cÖwZôv Ki‡Z bv †c‡i meB gyL _ye‡o c‡o‡Q| Pxb GwM‡q hv‡”Q Zv‡`i wbR¯^ KwgU‡g‡›Ui Ici fi K‡i| evOvwj kvmb e¨e¯’vq Ggb †Kv‡bv KwgU‡g›U †bB Ges A`~i fwel¨‡Z †KD KwgU‡g›U w`‡Z cvi‡e e‡jI g‡b nq bv| AvB‡bi kvm‡bi cÖ‡kœB †mvwf‡qZ eøK †f‡O †M‡Q| Zviv `uvov‡bvi †Póv K‡i‡Q wVK, wKš‘ evieviB wcwQ‡q co‡Q| myZivs eZ©gvb miKvi †h c‡_ nuvU‡Q †m c‡_ Dbœqb nq bv|
mvßvwnK : `…k¨gvb Dbœqb wK wKQyB †bB?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : n¨uv, wKQy wKQy †¶‡Î Dbœqb n‡”Q e‡U| wk¶v, bvixwk¶v, ¯^v¯’¨, mvgvwRK wbivcËv Gme †¶‡Î miKvi A‡bKUvB mdj| wKš‘ G¸‡jv avivevwnK mdjZvi Ask| GLv‡b mvaviY gvbyl, †emiKvwi cÖwZôvb, wek¦ms¯’viI Ae`vb Av‡Q| fq n‡”Q, mykvmb wb‡q| mykvmb cÖwZôvi wbqvgK n‡”Q msm`| wKš‘ †mLv‡b †Kv‡bv MYcÖwZwbwaZ¡ †bB| msm` feb Av‡Q wVK, †fZ‡i duvcv| miKv‡ii fv‡jv KvR AvB‡bi kvm‡bi Afv‡eB XvKv co‡e| †`‡k mykvm‡bi Pig Afve| Gfv‡e miKvi †ewk `~i †h‡Z cvi‡e bv|
mvßvwnK : c…w_ex GwM‡q hv‡”Q, Avgv‡`i mvaviY gvbylivI GwM‡q hv‡”Q ejwQ‡jb| wKš‘ GB mg‡q G‡m ivRbxwZ, mykvmb cÖ‡kœ gyL _ye‡o co‡Z n‡”Q †Kb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : GKwU e¨emvcÖwZôvb mywbw`©ó bxwZi g‡a¨ Pj‡jI me mgq fv‡jv hvq bv| Rvcv‡bi U‡qvUv †Kv¤úvwbi e¨emv wK me mgq GKB djvdj n‡q‡Q| GKwU ivóªI bxwZi g‡a¨ P‡j| Avcwb hw` ivóª, mgvR‡K GKwU e¨emvcÖwZôv‡bi m‡½ Zyjbv K‡ib, Zvn‡j DÌvb-cZb †g‡bB wb‡Z n‡e| mgvR †f‡O hvq, Avevi Ny‡i `uvovq| Avgv‡`i GLv‡b 1971 mv‡ji ci fv‡jv mgq †M‡Q| Avwki `kK Lvivc mgq †K‡U‡Q| Ô91 mv‡ji ci mgvR AveviI Ny‡i `uvov‡bvi †Póv K‡i‡Q| GLb Avevi Lvivc mgq hv‡”Q| 1930 mv‡ji w`‡K Av‡gwiKvi ivRbxwZ‡ZI gvwdqv‡`i cÖfve wQj| Puv`vevwRI fq¼i wQj| 1960 mv‡ji w`‡K Zviv gvwdqv Pµ †_‡K †ewi‡q G‡m‡Q| Avgiv GLbI GiKg gvwdqv ev ivRbxwZi `ye©…Ëvqb Øviv wbqwš¿Z nw”Q| wbqwš¿Z nw”Q, GwU A¯^vfvweK wKQy bv| Kxfv‡e GLvb †_‡K †ewi‡q Avmv hvq, †mUvB eo K_v|
mvßvwnK : †ewi‡q Avmv KZUyKy mnR?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : `ye©…Ëvq‡bi ivRbxwZ †_‡K †ewi‡q Avmv mwZ¨B KwVb n‡q co‡Q| hZ w`b hv‡”Q, †ewi‡q Avmvi iv¯—v ZZB msKxY© n‡”Q| GB cwiw¯’wZi Ab¨Zg KviY n‡”Q QvÎivRbxwZi †`Dwjqvcbv| GK mgq K¨v¤úvm¸‡jv‡Z ivRbxwZi De©i f~wg wQj| MYZ‡š¿i PP©v †mLv‡bB cvKv‡cv³ n‡Zv| GLb K¨v¤úvm¸‡jv `ye©…ˇ`i `L‡j| gv¯—vwb, mš¿vm m…wó KivB n‡”Q GLb QvÎivRbxwZ| `yB `kK a‡i QvÎ msm`¸‡jvi wbe©vPb eÜ| G e¨vcv‡i †Kv‡bvB gv_ve¨_v †bB| Qv·`i mwVK ivRbxwZi RvqMv eÜ K‡i w`‡q miKvi¸‡jv `ye©…ˇ`i Rb¨ iv¯—v cwi®‹vi K‡i w`‡”Q|
mvßvwnK : Zvn‡j †Zv me iv¯—vB eÜ? `ye©…Ëiv kwn` wgbviI `L‡j wb‡”Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : AvcvZZ eÜ| wKš‘ Dcvq †ei n‡eB| Gfv‡e †Kv‡bv mgvRB Pj‡Z cv‡i bv| ivR‰bwZK gyw³ `yBfv‡e nq| ax‡i Ges Z¡wiZ MwZ‡Z| gvby‡li wcV †`qv‡j †V‡K †M‡j, Zv UcKv‡bvi †Póv K‡i| GLb cwiw¯’wZ †`qv‡j wcV †V‡K hvIqvi g‡ZvB| †bZ…Z¡ nqZ P‡j Avm‡e|
mvßvwnK : 1971 mvjI Avgiv †V‡K wM‡q †`qvj UcwK‡qwQ| UcwK‡q fvi‡Zi †Kv‡j c‡owQ wK bv? †h Kvi‡Y AvRI Avgiv Avgv‡`i kvmb Ki‡Z cviwQ bv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : Avgvi cv‡ki evwo‡Z GKRb cÖfvekvjx gš¿x _v‡Kb| HwZnvwmK Kvi‡YB cwieviwU Avgvi Kv‡Q ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| GLb †mB evwo‡Z iv‡Z Mvb n‡”Q Ges Avwg wM‡q hw` Zv eÜ K‡i w`B, Zvn‡j GwU eyw×gv‡bi KvR n‡e bv| GLv‡b fvi‡Zi Lei`vwi Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q A‡bK eo ev¯—eZv| GwU‡K A¯^xKvi Kivi †Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB|
mvßvwnK : A‡b¨i Lei`vwi hw` Avgvi Aw¯—‡Z¡i cÖkœ n‡q `uvovq?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : eoiv †QvU‡`i wbqš¿Y Ki‡eB, GB ev¯—eZv ¯^xKvi bv Kivi A_©B n‡”Q AwZ‡ivgvw›UKZv| wKš‘ Avwg hw` ïay ev¯—eZv wb‡qB _vwK, Zvn‡j Avgvi AwaKvi ¶yYœ n‡Z cv‡i| Avwg Avgvi AwaKv‡ii e¨vcv‡i m‡PZb wK bv †mUvB n‡”Q we‡eP¨ welq| Av‡gwiKv‡K Lywk †i‡LB KvbvWv, †gw·‡Kv‡K Pj‡Z nq| GB ev¯—eZv bv _vK‡j `ywbqv A‡bK fv‡jv _vKZ, ˆelg¨nxb _vKZ| ivRbxwZ gv‡bB †Zv ivRvi bxwZ, ivRvi wbqš¿Y|
mvßvwnK : gyw³hy‡×i †PZbv MYgvby‡li Kv‡Q †cŠuQv‡Z †Kv‡bv NvUwZ wQj wK bv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : gyw³hy‡×i †PZbv MYgvby‡liB wQj| wKš‘ gyw³hy‡×i ci †bZ…‡Z¡i `~i`wk©Zvi Afve wQj| e½eÜyi miKvi GKwU aŸsmcÖvq Rbc`‡K gvÎ `yB eQ‡ii g‡a¨ †mvbvi evsjv Movi ¯^cœ †`wL‡qwQj| GwU wQj AwZ‡ivgvw›UKZv Ges `~i`wk©Zvi Afve| hy‡× aŸsm n‡q hvIqv GKwU †`k‡K ivZvivwZ cwieZ©b Kiv hvq bv| Gi Rb¨ mgq jv‡M| wKš‘ Avgiv †mB mgq bv wb‡qB ¯^cœ †`‡LwQ, ¯^cœ †`wL‡qwQ| GwU wbtm‡›`‡n `~i`wk©Zvi Afve wQj e‡j g‡b Kwi|
wØZxqZ, hy‡×i ci cÖvq `yB jvL gvby‡li Kv‡Q A¯¿ wQj| wbqg n‡”Q, hy× †k‡l hy‡× Ask †bqv evwnbx‡K Aem‡i †`qv| GLv‡bI `~i`wk©Zvi Afve wQj Ges †cQ‡b wd‡i GLb Avgiv Zv eyS‡Z cviwQ| IB evwnbx‡K Aem‡i bv cvVv‡bvi Kvi‡YB Avgiv mk¯¿ evwnbxi g‡a¨ evievi nvbvnvwb †`L‡Z †c‡qwQ|
mvßvwnK : Gme Kvi‡YB wK †PZbvq w¯’iZv Av‡mwb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : n¨uv, A‡bKUv ZvB| RvwZ MV‡b †h wg_ ev KíKvwnbx ˆZwi Ki‡Z nq, Avgiv Zv cvwiwb| exi‡kÖô mvZRb kwn` Av‡Qb| Avgiv KqRb Zv‡`i bvg Rvwb| GB exi †mbvbx‡`i wb‡q wg_ ˆZwi Kiv †hZ| wKš‘ nqwb| knx`‡`i wb‡qI KíKvwnbx nqwb| fvlv kwn`‡`i wb‡q wg_ ˆZwi n‡qwQj| G Kvi‡Y gyw³hy‡× Avgiv mdj| wKš‘ gyw³hy‡×i ci mywbw`©ó †Kv‡bv wg_ ˆZwi Ki‡Z cvwiwb e‡jB evievi †nuvPU †L‡Z n‡”Q| Avgv‡`i BwZnvm †Zv 1952 mvj †_‡K 1971 mvj ch©š— bq| Avgv‡`i nvRvi eQ‡ii BwZnvm, HwZn¨ i‡q‡Q| †mB Av‡jv‡K wg_ ˆZwi Kiv nqwb|
mvßvwnK : wg_ ˆZwi n‡jv bv †Kb? Kviv ˆZwi Ki‡e?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : mvaviYZ †jLK, eyw×Rxexiv wg_ ˆZwi K‡i _v‡Kb| 14 wW‡m¤^i Avgv‡`i Ac~iYxq ¶wZ| Avgiv GB ¶wZ KvwU‡q DV‡Z cvwiwb| GK Aa¨vcK Avwbmy¾vgvb m¨vi ev GK wePvicwZ nvweeyi ingvb cy‡iv RvwZi Rb¨ wg_ ˆZwi Ki‡Z cv‡ib bv| Zv‡`i AviI AviI nvZ jv‡M| cÂvk Rb Avwbmy¾vgvb _vK‡j wg_ ˆZwi Kiv A‡bK mnR n‡Zv|
GKwU AwfÁZvi K_v ewj, 1992 mv‡ji K_v| Avwg ZLb Bsj¨v‡Û wcGBPwW KiwQ| Z…Zxq we‡k¦i BwZnvm, HwZn¨ wb‡q eB Ki‡eb, Ggb GKRb cÖKvkK G‡m Avgvi m‡½ mv¶vr K‡i ej‡Qb, e½eÜy‡K wb‡q G‡Kev‡i †gŠwjK RvqMv †_‡K 1k c…ôvi GKwU eB wjL‡Z n‡e| KviY Zv‡K wb‡q 1k c…ôvi †Kv‡bv eB †bB| Avwg ¶yä njvg| ejjvg, e½eÜy‡K wb‡q 1k c…ôvi eB †bB, Zv n‡Z cv‡i bv| Avwg jvB‡eÖwi NuvUv ïi“ Kijvg| †`Ljvg, mwZ¨B e½eÜy‡K wb‡q †jLv 1k c…ôvi Bs‡iwR fvlvq †Kv‡bv eB †bB| A_P gnvZ¥v MvÜx‡K wb‡q †`Ljvg, 4kÕi g‡Zv w_wmm n‡q †M‡Q|
mvßvwnK : c‡i wK wjL‡jb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : bv, †jLvi my‡hvM nqwb| Avgvi cÖPyi e¨¯—Zv wQj| Avi mZ¨ K_v ej‡Z Kx, Zv‡K wb‡q wjL‡Z n‡j †hvM¨Zvi `iKvi nq, hv ZLb wQj bv|
mvßvwnK : A‡b‡KB †Zv wjL‡Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : n¨uv, A‡b‡KB wjL‡Q wVK, wKš‘ gvb wb‡q cÖkœ Av‡Q| †KD AwZiwÄZfv‡e gnvbvqK Ki‡Qb, Avevi †KD LjbvqK Ki‡Qb| G‡K BwZnvm-wbf©i eB ej‡Z cv‡ib bv| wbi‡c¶ RvqMv †_‡K KgB †jLv n‡q‡Q| GmG Kwig Ges e`i“j Avnmv‡bi †jLv Bs‡iwR fvlvq †jLv `ywU eB‡qB e½eÜy‡K wb‡q mwVK welq D‡V G‡m‡Q| RvwZ MV‡b wg_ GwUB| e³…Zvq A‡bK wKQy ejv hvq, wKš‘ e³…Zv ï‡b †KD we¯—vwiZ Rvb‡Z PvB‡j Avgiv wKQy w`‡Z cvwi bv|
mvßvwnK : Gi `vq Kvi?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : Gi `vq Avgv‡`i meviB| miKvi, †jLK, eyw×Rxex †KDB GB `vq Gov‡Z cv‡i bv| Avgv‡`i msweavb iPbvi †cÖ¶vcU wb‡q †Zgb wKQyB †jLv nqwb| 1973 mv‡j dRjyj nK bv‡gi GKRb †jLK Gwkqvb mv‡f©‡Z msweavb wb‡q 13 c…ôvi GKwU †jLv wj‡LwQ‡jb| MZ wZb eQ‡i wKQyUv †jLv n‡q‡Q| Gi Av‡M †Kv‡bv †jLv wQj bv| A_P fviZ msweavb wb‡q cÖ_g †_‡KB wg_ `uvo Kwi‡q Pj‡Q| A‡bK fvix fvix †jLv i‡q‡Q †m †`‡ki msweav‡bi Ici| RvwZ MVb n‡”Q eyw×gËvi cÖKí| wKš‘ Avgv‡`i †mB cÖKí AZ¨š— f½yi|
mvßvwnK : eyw×Rxexiv ivR‰bwZK †gvo‡K XvKv _vKvi Kvi‡YB Kx Ggb f½yive¯’v? Gi †kl †Kv_vq?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : Gi †kl †Kv_vq, Zvi †Kv‡bv e¨vL¨v †bB| K_vq K_vq †gŠjev`xiv gyiZv` †NvlYv KiZ| Avi GLb cÖMwZkxj msMVb¸‡jv K_vq K_vq eyw×Rxex‡`i AevwÃZ, wbwl× †NvlYv Ki‡Q| gZ wfbœ, wKš‘ Pigcš’vi c_ GKB| eyw×Rxexiv ivR‰bwZK e¨vbv‡i KvR Kivi Kvi‡YB Ggb ˆ`b¨`kv|
mvßvwnK : GiciI Avcbviv K_v ej‡Qb| wKš‘ gvbyl wK RvM‡Q?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : mgq jv‡M| me RvqMvq Kv`v| †KD bv †KD †Zv K_v ej‡Q| gvbyl RvM‡eB| KvRx bRi“j Bmjvg bv _vK‡j †h †PZbv `uvovq bv, GwU Dcjwä Ki‡Z Avgv‡`i A‡bK mgq †j‡M‡Q| Avgiv AvRI GKwU c~Y©v½ Rv`yNi ˆZwi Ki‡Z cvwiwb| miKvi GwU Dcjwä Ki‡Z cv‡i bv, A_P gyw³hy× wb‡q mevB ivRbxwZ Ki‡Z Af¨¯—|
mvßvwnK : RvwZi fwel¨r Kx?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : mveavb nIqvB Avgv‡`i fwel¨r| Gfv‡e Pj‡Z _vK‡j AÜKv‡i cov Qvov Avi †Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB|
mvßvwnK : mveavb nIqvi †Kv‡bv Bw½Z cv‡”Qb?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : bZyb wKQy Avm‡Z mgq jv‡M bv| 1954 mv‡j hy³dÖ›U Gfv‡e weRqx n‡e, Zv 1953 mv‡jI A‡b‡K Kíbv K‡iwb| 1966 mv‡jI e½eÜy cvwK¯—v‡bi wØZxq mvwii †bZv wQ‡jb| 1970 mv‡j e½eÜy‡K P¨v‡jÄ Kivi †KD wQj bv| GKB K_v wRqvDi ingv‡bi †ejv‡ZI| hw`I †cÖ¶vcU wfbœ wQj|
mvßvwnK : g~javivi ivR‰bwZK `j¸‡jv‡Z ms¯‹vi n‡Z cv‡i wK bv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : we`¨gvb ivR‰bwZK `j¸‡jvi Ici gvby‡li Av¯’v †bB| AvIqvgx jxM-weGbwc‡K gvbyl wek¦vm Ki‡Z Pvq bv| RvZxq cvwU© B‡Zvg‡a¨B nvwi‡q †M‡Q| d‡j bZyb wKQy Avmv A¯^vfvweK bq|
mvßvwnK : ag©xq ivRbxwZ we‡kl ¸i“Z¡ †c‡Z cv‡i wK bv?
W. kvn`xb gvwjK : `yB eQ‡ii g‡a¨ wbe©vPb n‡j RvgvqvZ ev ag©xq kw³ Lye fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv| wKš‘ miKvi †h ˆ¯^ivPvix bxwZ AbymiY Ki‡Q Ges Zv hw` AviI cÖmvwiZ nq, Zvn‡j †gŠjev`xiv myweav †b‡e| mnR wnmve n‡”Q, weGbwc‡K RvqMv bv w`‡j RvgvqvZ wRZ‡e| †kL nvwmbvB Rvgvqv‡Zi DÌvb NUv‡e, G K_v Avwg Qq gvm Av‡MI wj‡LwQ| Bmjvgcwš’‡`i DÌv‡bi †cQ‡bi Ae`vb‡K wb‡q hw` KLbI BwZnvm †jLv nq, Zvn‡j †kL nvwmbv‡K AwaK ¸i“Z¡ w`‡q wjL‡Z n‡e| mgvR wbh©vwZZ‡`i c‡¶| †kL nvwmbv Av`wk©K jovB bv Pvwj‡q ˆ¯^ivPvix bxwZ MÖnY K‡i G¸‡”Q Ges gvbyl †gŠjev`x‡`i c‡¶B Ae¯’vb wb‡”Q|