Zmwjgv bvmwib: KjKvZvi GKUv mvwnZ¨ cwÎKv †_‡K AvR `xN©w`b hver GKUv mv¶vrKvi PvIqv n‡”Q| †`e †`e K‡i AvRI †`Iqv nqwb| AvR `yqvi Ly‡jB cÖ‡kœvËi w`w”Q|
1. cÖvq `y eQi Av‡M GKwU mvwnZ¨ cwÎKvi Rb¨ Avcbvi mv¶vrKvi wb‡qwQjvg| ZLb Avcbvi K‡É Awfgvb Avi †¶vf AwZgvÎvq j¶¨ K‡iwQjvg| GLb wK Ae¯’v wKQyUv cv‡ë‡Q?
DËi : Kx wb‡q Awfgvb K‡iwQjvg ev †¶vf cÖKvk K‡iwQjvg, Zv †Zv ej‡eb gkvB! Avgvi Awfgvb, †¶vf, ivM BZ¨vw`i †cQ‡b eo †KvbI KviY _v‡K| Ggwb‡Z Avwg Lye nvwmLywk gvbyl, †QvULv‡Uv fyjÎywU¸‡jvi Rb¨ gvbyl‡K wbiš—i ¶gv K‡i w`B| Zvi gv‡b GB bq †h, KviI †KvbI fqsKi e`gvBwk †`L‡ev, Avi bv †`Lvi fvb K‡i Ab¨ w`‡K P‡j hv‡ev! Ab¨vq hw` †`wL, ivM Ki‡ev bv? †hw`b wKQy‡ZB wKQy Avm‡e hv‡e bv Avgvi, †¶vf †Uvf g‡i f~Z n‡q hv‡e, ivM Kivi g‡Zv wKQy NU‡jI ivM Ki‡ev bv, †mw`b eyS‡eb Avgvi g„Zy¨ n‡q‡Q| GB †h ‘AwZgvÎv’ kãUv e¨envi Ki‡jb, †mUv Avevi A™¢yZ! †¶v‡fi gvÎv Kx K‡i †g‡cwQ‡jb Avcwb? †¶vf wVK KZUv n‡j gvÎvi g‡a¨ _v‡K, KZUv n‡j _v‡K bv, †mUv †evSv‡e †K? GB gvÎvUv gvcvi `vwqZ¡Uv Kvi, ejyb †Zv! MRwd‡ZUv wVK Kvi Kv‡Q _v‡K? †h †¶vf †`Lvq bvwK †h †¶vf †`‡L? bvwK Z…Zxq †KvbI e¨w³? mgv‡Ri mevB Avcbviv gvÎv gvcvi gvZeŸi n‡q †M‡j Pj‡e Kx K‡i ejyb| gvbyl‡K GKUy wb‡Ri g‡Zv wb‡Ri gZ cÖKvk Ki‡Z w`b| Avcbvi gv_vq WvÐv hZ¶Y bv gviwQ, A_©vr fv‡qv‡jÝ hZ¶Y bv KiwQ, ZZ¶Y Avgv‡K mB‡Z wkLyb|
2. †mB mv¶vrKv‡i Avcwb GKwU cÖm½ Zy‡jwQ‡jb hv Zvi Av‡M †KD Rvb‡Zv bv| AviI †ewk gvby‡li Rvbv DwPZ e‡jB Avwg †mB cÖm½wU Avi GKevi GLv‡b DÌvcb Ki‡Z PvB| Avcwb Rvwb‡qwQ‡jb †h Avcwb †h ïay gymwjg †gŠjev` we‡ivax Zv bq, Avcwb mg¯— ai‡bi †gŠjev‡`i we‡ivax| †h Kvi‡Y ¸RivZ `v½vi ci cwðge‡½ wn›`y †gŠjev` we‡ivax †h msMVb ˆZwi nq Zv‡Z Avcwb GKKvjxb †ek wKQy UvKv w`‡qwQ‡jb| Avcwb †¶vf cÖKvk K‡iwQ‡jb GB e‡j †h k•L †Nvl me wKQy Rvbv m‡Ë¡I †Kb GB K_v cÖKv‡k¨ Rvbvbwb| k•L †Nvl c‡i GKwU wPwV‡Z Avcbvi K_v ¯^xKvi K‡i Rvwb‡qwQ‡jb †h Avcwb wb‡RB IB K_v cÖKv‡k¨ Rvbv‡Z wb‡la K‡iwQ‡jb| G e¨vcv‡i Avcwb Kx ej‡eb?
DËi : Avwg me ai‡bi ag©xq †gŠjev` we‡ivax †mUv Avgvi eB co‡jB Rvbv hvq| Ggb bq †h Avcbv‡K †`Iqv MZ mv¶vrKv‡i IB K_vUv Avwg cÖ_g Rvwb‡qwQ|
GB †¶v‡fi K_vB Zvn‡j ejwQ‡jb! ïbyb, k·L †Nvl‡K Avwg e‡jwQjvg †h, Avwg †h UvKv w`jvg ¸Riv‡Zi DØv¯—y gymjgvb‡`i Rb¨, Zv wb‡Ri cÖPv‡ii Rb¨ bq, wKQy `vb K‡i eovB Kiv Avwg cQ›` Kwi bv| gvbyl‡K eiveiB Avwg wbf…‡ZB mvnvh¨ Kwi, †Xvj wcwU‡q Kwi bv| k·L †Nvl‡K webxZfv‡e ïay Rvwb‡qwQjvg, Avwg †Xv‡j wek¦vmx bB, Avi †Xv‡ji kãI Avgv‡K GKUy AcÖwZf K‡i| wKš‘ Avgv‡K hLb ‘gymwjg we‡ivax’ Acev` w`‡q nvq`vivev‡` kvixwiK AvµgY Kiv n‡jv, GKUv exfrm g„Zy¨ Avgvi cÖvq QyuB QyuB `~i‡Z¡ wQj, †mw`bB KjKvZvq wd‡i G‡j Avgv‡K hLb Niew›` Ki‡jv miKvi, cvK© mvK©v‡mi iv¯—vq wKQy c‡KUgvi †b‡gwQj e‡j gymwjg we‡ivax ARynvZ Zy‡j hLb Avgv‡K ivR¨Qvov Ki‡jv, Avi w`wjø‡ZI Avgv‡K hLb wbivc` evwoi bvg K‡i GKB iKg M…new›` Kiv n‡qwQj, cÖwZw`b Pvc †`Iqv nw”Qj †`k Qvovi Rb¨, gymjgvbiv ˆi ˆi K‡i †a‡q G‡m Avgv‡K cÖvq wQu‡o †L‡q †d‡j Ggb hLb ivR‰bwZK Ae¯’v, mvg‡b g„Zy¨ Avi wbe©vmb, †h †KvbIwU‡K hLb Avgvi †e‡Q wb‡Z n‡e, ZLb k·L †Nvl PycPvc e‡m meB †`LwQ‡jb, meB RvbwQ‡jb, ïay GKevi gyL dy‡U †Kv_vI GKev‡ii Rb¨ e‡jbwb †h, gymwjgwe‡ivax e‡j hv cÖPvi n‡”Q Avgvi wei“‡×, Zv mZ¨ bq| k·L †Nvl Pyc K‡i _vKvB †kÖq g‡b K‡iwQ‡jb| `vb K‡i bvg †Kbvi cÖPvi, Avi wbe©vmb ev g„Zy¨ †_‡K Avgv‡K euvPv‡bvi cÖ‡qvR‡b GKUv mZ¨ cÖPvi- GB `yB cÖPv‡ii g‡a¨i ZdvZUv k·L †Nvl Rv‡bb bv Avwg wek¦vm Kwi bv|
k·L †Nvl mZ¨‡K †mw`b cÖKvk Ki‡j Rvwb bv KZUv jvf n‡Zv| nq‡Zv LoKy‡Uvi g‡ZvB g~j¨nxb n‡Zv Zuvi wee…wZ| Z‡e †h‡nZy IB `ytmg‡q Avwg nZvkvi AZ‡j WyewQjvg, cÖvYc‡Y wKQy LoKy‡UvB LyuRwQjvg AuvK‡o euvPvi Rb¨|
hv n‡q †M‡Q n‡q †M‡Q| Qvoyb Ime cy‡iv‡bv K_v| Avgv‡K cwðge‡½ †_‡K †ei K‡i †`Iqv n‡q‡Q| cy‡iv fviZel© †_‡KI †ei K‡i †`Iqv n‡qwQ‡jv| K‡qK eQi ci Avevi AbygwZ †c‡qwQ e‡U w`wjø‡Z _vKvi, Z‡e cv‡qi Zjvi gvwU GLbI eo boe‡o|
3. Avcbvi weovj wgby‡K wb‡q P~Y©x Mv½yjx Qwe evbv‡”Qb| hv Avm‡j Avcbvi Rxe‡bi GKUv Ask| Avcbvi Rxeb wb‡q mivmwi Qwe Ki‡j Amywe‡a n‡Z cv‡i g‡b K‡iB wK Zv bv K‡i wgby‡K wb‡q Qwe Kivi K_v †f‡e‡Qb P~Y©x?
DËi : P~Y©x Kx †f‡e‡Q †m †Zv Avwg Rvwb bv gkvB| wgby‡K wb‡q †KŠwk‡Ki GKUv w¯ŒÞB ˆZwi wQj| †KŠwk‡KiB Kivi K_v wQj Qwe| Z‡e GLb Iiv wm×vš— wb‡q‡Q, †KŠwk‡Ki w¯ŒÞ wb‡q Qwe P~Y©xB Ki‡e| P~Y©x G‡mwQj wgby‡K †`L‡Z| wgbyI †Zv †eRvq Lywk| wgby, Avgvi †Kb †hb g‡b nq, eyS‡Z †c‡i‡Q †h, I‡K wb‡q Qwe n‡”Q| †ek GKUv bvwqKv bvwqKv fve K‡i K’w`b nuvUv Pjv Ki‡jv| ïbyb evcy, Avgvi Rxeb wb‡q Qwe Ki‡Z †jv‡Ki fq cvIqvi †KvbI †Zv KviY †`wL bv| hw` †KD fq cvq, †m Zvi `ye©j mœvqyi †`vl| fq †c‡jB fq cvIqv nq, bv †c‡jB cvIqv nq bv| hviv fq cvq, Zviv Avgvi †eovj †Kb, Avgvi evwo †_‡K wZwik gvBj `~‡i †h Bu`yi¸‡jv †`Šov‡”Q, †mB Bu`yi¸‡jvi Qwe Zyj‡Z †M‡jI †`L‡eb nvZ Kuvc‡Q|
4. g‡nk fvU bvwK Avcbvi Rxeb wb‡q Qwe Kivi B‡”Qi K_v Rvwb‡qwQ‡jb? †mUvi Kx n‡jv?
DËi : †mUvi Kx n‡jv †mUv g‡nk fvU‡KB bv nq wR‡Ám Ki“b| AvR †Z‡iv eQi Av‡M †NvlYv K‡iwQ‡jb Avgv‡K wb‡q Qwe evbv‡eb| Zvici nq‡Zv Qwe evbv‡bvi AvBwWqvUv gv_v †_‡K GKmgq †S‡oI †d‡jwQ‡jb| Kx KviY, wKQyB Rvwb bv| Avwg g‡b Kwi, †KvbI wPÎcwiPvjK †KvbI GKUv welq wb‡q Qwe evbv‡bvi B‡”Qi K_v ej‡ZB cv‡ib| c‡i †mB B‡”QUv wZwb cwieZ©b Ki‡ZB cv‡ib| gZ cÖKv‡ki †hgb AwaKvi Av‡Q, gZ cwieZ©‡biI gvby‡li †Zgb AwaKvi Av‡Q| Z‡e AevK n‡qwQ wKQyw`b Av‡M hLb wZwb cy‡iv A¯^xKvi K‡i em‡jb †h Avgv‡K wb‡q Qwe evbv‡bvi K_v Kw¯§bKv‡jI wZwb bvwK e‡jbwb| me‡P‡q gRvi welq, B›Uvi‡b‡Ui †`Šj‡Z cy‡iv‡bv Kvmyw›` †ek NuvUv hvq|
5. Avcbvi f~wgKvq hw` Avcbv‡K Awfbq Ki‡Z ejv nq, Avcwb ivwR n‡eb?
DËi : bv| KviY Avwg Awfbq Ki‡Z Rvwb bv| hviv wg‡_¨ K_v e‡j Zviv fv‡jv Awfbq Rv‡b| †h‡nZy Avwg wg‡_¨ ej‡Z Rvwb bv, Avgv‡K w`‡q Avi hvB †nvK, IB AwfbqUv n‡e bv|
6. †gŠjev`x‡`i f‡q ïay ivR‰bwZK `j¸‡jv bq, wewfbœ wgwWqv nvDR Avcbv‡K wbwl× K‡i‡Q| Z‡e B`vbxs wKQy cwÎKvq Avcbvi †jLv †`L‡Z cvw”Q| Ae¯’vUv wK wKQyUv cv‡ë‡Q?
DËi : e¨w³MZ D‡`¨v‡M `y&’GKRb Qv‡cvlv mvsevw`K †KvbIiKg wb‡lavÁvi †Zvqv°v bv K‡i Avgvi †jLv Qvcv‡”Q gv‡S gv‡S| cvVK G‡Z welg Lywk, †MvMÖv‡m co‡Q †jLv| †Kb ewÂZ Kiv n‡”Q GZ cvVK‡K! `ytL nq| Avm‡j Kx Rv‡bb, fqUv GKUv wew”Qwi †ivM| GB †ivMUv evsjv‡ZB †ewk| GKmgq evsjvq me wbf©xK cÖwZev`x wecøex gvbyl evm Ki‡Zb| GB evsjv GLb Avi †mB evsjv †bB| evsjvUv GLb †hb †Kgb fxZy‡`i, Av‡cvmKvgx‡`i, mywe‡aev`x‡`i, Av`k©nxb‡`i, eyw×nxb‡`i ivR¨ n‡q DV‡Q| GB evsjv‡K fv‡jv‡e‡m †mB my`~i wbe©vmb †_‡K GKmgq mvZ mgy`Ö †Z‡iv b`x †cwi‡q P‡j G‡mwQjvg, eo fv‡jv‡e‡m evmv †eu‡awQjvg| †mB evmv †f‡O Pyigvi K‡i w`‡q‡Q evsjvi †jv‡Kiv| me‡P‡q eo †h wRwbmUv Avgvi †f‡O‡Q, †mUv gb| GLbI `yt¯^‡cœi g‡Zv †mB w`b¸‡jv!
7. A‡bK wPÎcwiPvjK bvwK Avcbvi Mí ev Dcb¨vm wb‡q Qwe Ki‡Z wM‡q bvbvfv‡e wcwQ‡q G‡m‡Qb?
DËi : †Kv_vI wbðqB Zuv‡`i mgm¨v nq| †Kv_vI wM‡q Zviv nq‡Zv evav cvb| †Kv_vq †mUv, GLbI Rvwb bv| GKUv fyZy‡o e¨vcvi GLv‡b Av‡Q| cwiPvjKiv Avgvi Kv‡Q Avm‡Qb| w¯ŒÞ cwo‡q KbUÖv± mB K‡i wb‡q hv‡”Qb| Zvici Kx †h nq, †Kvb Lv‡` †h Zv‡`i †d‡j †`Iqv nq, †K †h †d‡j †`q, †K †h Kx K‡i, Zvi wKQyB Avwg Rvwb bv| A‡bK‡K ïay AÜKv‡i nvwi‡q †h‡Z †`‡LwQ|
8. cwðge‡½i A‡bK Kwe mvwnwZ¨K Pvb bv Avcbvi †jLv GLv‡b Qvcv †nvK ev Avcwb KjKvZvq ¯’vqxfv‡e evm Ki“b| G‡`i GiKg g‡bvfv‡ei KviY Kx e‡j Avcwb g‡b K‡ib?
DËi : †Kb Pvb bv Iuiv, †mUv Iu‡`i wR‡Ám Ki“b| Avwg Kx K‡i ej‡ev Iuiv †Kb Pvb bv Avwg KjKvZvq evm Kwi ev KjKvZvq Avgvi †jLv Qvcv †nvK| GK mybxj M‡½vcva¨vq Qvov †KD gyL Ly‡j Avgv‡K e‡jbwb KjKvZv †Q‡o P‡j hvIqvi Rb¨| cy‡iv 2007 mvj Ry‡o hLb cwðge½ miKvi Avgv‡K ivR¨ †_‡K Zvovevi Rb¨ cÖvq Db¥v` n‡q D‡VwQj, ZLb mybxj M‡½vcva¨vq GKevi Avgv‡K e‡jwQ‡jb, Avwg †hb fv‡jvq fv‡jvq P‡j hvB| Avi, Ab¨ Kvi g‡b Kx wQj ev Av‡Q, †mUv †Zv Avwg ej‡Z cvi‡ev bv| g‡bi K_v Ly‡j ej‡j Z‡eB bv eyS‡Z cviv hvq g‡b Kx Av‡Q| bv ej‡j †evSvUv GKUy KwVb n‡q c‡o| KviY, †`Lv n‡j mevB †Zv nvwmgyL K‡i m¤¢vlYB Rvbv‡Zb| g‡b-GK-gy‡L-Av‡iK‡`i wb‡q wPiKvjB Avgvi GKUy mgm¨v nq|
9. Avcbvi RbwcÖqZv‡K Guiv Cl©v K‡ib e‡j g‡b K‡ib?
DËi : Avwg Rvwb bv †KD Cl©v K‡ib wK bv| Z‡e, mnKg©x‡`i RbwcÖqZv‡K GKUy AvaUy Cl©v cÖvq mevB K‡i| ïay mvwn‡Z¨i RM‡Z bq, me RM‡ZB| †jLvcovi RM‡Z, †Ljvayjvi RM‡Z, bvU‡Ki RM‡Z, m½x‡Zi RM‡Z, wk‡íi RM‡Z, evwY‡R¨i RM‡Z| †Kv_vq Cl©v †bB? Cl©v _vKv †Zv ¶wZKi bq| eis Cl©v _vK‡j cÖwZ‡hvwMZvUv _v‡K, AviI fv‡jv wKQy †jLvi, AviI fv‡jv wKQy Kivi AvMÖn Rb¥vq| Lye Kg gvbylB e‡j †h KuvaUv w`w”Q, Kuv‡ai Ici `uvwo‡q Zywg GKUy eo nI| wKš‘, Ii RbwcÖqZv‡K Cl©v Kwi, myZivs I‡K G Zjøv‡U Avi PvB bv, I‡K †h K‡iB cv‡iv LZg K‡i `vI, GUv †KvbI f`Ö‡jv‡Ki gxgvsmv bq| GB gxgvsmv AwZ `ye©j wP‡Ëi, AwZ boe‡o mœvqyi, AwZ f½yi g‡bi †jv‡Kiv K‡i| I‡`i, gv‡b IB fxZy Avi KyPy‡U KyPµx‡`i w`‡q fv‡jv mvwnZ¨ nIqvUv gykwKj| Iiv Lvwj gv‡V †Mvj †`Iqvi Rb¨ gywL‡q _v‡K| †ev‡SB bv †h G‡Z †KvbI exiZ¡ †bB|
10. mybxj M‡½vcva¨v‡qi wei“‡× Avcwb †h †hŠb nqivwbi Awf‡hvM K‡i‡Qb, Zv‡Z evOvwji Av‡eM av°v Lv‡e †R‡bI Avcwb SyuwK wb‡q‡Qb| GZw`b ev‡` GB Awf‡hvM Kiv wK Lye Ri“wi wQj?
DËi : evOvwji Av‡e‡M av°v bv †`Iqvi `vwqZ¡Uv Avgv‡K †K w`‡q‡Q? †h-B w`K, KviI Av‡eM euvwP‡q Pjv Avgvi KvR bq| we‡kl K‡i †mB Av‡eM, †h Av‡eM mZ¨ ïb‡Z ivwR bq| mybxj M‡½vcva¨vq wKQyw`b a‡iB ejwQ‡jb, Dwb bvwK eB e¨v‡bi wei“‡×| GwU mZ¨ bq| Avgvi wØLwÐZ e¨vb Kivi Rb¨ 2003 mv‡j Dwb A‡bK †jLv‡jwL K‡i‡Qb, mv¶vrKvi w`‡q‡Qb, Avwg mweb‡q Zvi fyj awi‡q w`jvg| ZLbB K_vq K_vq IB cÖm½ DV‡jv, †hŠb nqivwb‡Z Avgv‡KI †h ev` †`bwb †mUv| kn‡ii mvwnZ¨ RM‡Z ï‡bwQ A‡b‡KB mybxj M‡½vcva¨v‡qi A‡bK K_vB Rv‡b, wKš‘ mevB bvwK †P‡c hvq| KviY Dwb Lye bvgx `vgx gvbyl| bvgx `vgx gvby‡liv Ab¨vq Ki‡jI †mUv‡K Ab¨vq wn‡m‡e †`L‡Z †bB| Avi cyi“lZvwš¿K mgvR †Zv AninB ej‡QB, ‘cyi“lgvbyl †Zv, IiKg †Zv GKUy Ki‡eB’| wKš‘ IiKg KivUv hw` bv gvwb? Z‡e †`vlUv Avgvi| cyi“lgvby‡li Ab¨vq KivUv Ab¨vq bq, Zvi Ab¨vq bv gvbvUv Avgvi Ab¨vq| GB mgv‡Ri bvgx `vgx KviI wei“‡× †hŠb nqivwbi Awf‡hvM Kiv gv‡b wb‡R‡K †R‡b ey‡S k~‡j Pov‡bv|
GZw`b ev‡` Awf‡hvM K‡iwQ †Kb? wVK KZw`b ev‡` Awf‡hvM Ki‡j †mUv wVK, Avi KZw`b ev‡` Ki‡j †ewVK, ïwb? Avwg wK evcy †Kv‡U© wM‡q wcbvBj-f¨vRvBbvj-al©‡Yi Awf‡hvM K‡iwQ †h Avgv‡K Lye `ªæZ Awf‡hvMUv Ki‡Z n‡e KviY Wv³vix cix¶vi Rb¨ ˆZwi _vK‡Z n‡e, wKQyw`b ev‡` n‡j †h cix¶vUv m¤¢e bq? Avgvi webv AbygwZ‡Z Avgv‡K Rvc‡U a‡i Avgvi eyK Lvg‡P ai‡jI †Zv †hŠb nqivwb nq, bvwK nq bv? wew”Qwi NUbvUv cy‡l wQjvg A‡bK¸‡jv eQi| †Kv‡U©I hvBwb, KvM‡RI hvBwb| †mw`b eB e¨vb wb‡q IB AbM©j wg‡_¨Uv hw` mybxj M‡½vcva¨vq bv ej‡Zb, Zvn‡j nq‡Zv nqivwbi K_vUv ejvB n‡Zv bv KLbI| wKQy †jLvq `ytL K‡i †hUyKy wj‡LwQjvg, †mUyKyB _vK‡Zv| GLb g‡b nq, e‡j fv‡jvB K‡iwQ| †KvbI A¯^w¯— g‡bi g‡a¨ cy‡l ivLv wVK bq| gnvgvb‡ei m¤§vb cvb, Avi Z‡j Z‡j †h IB KxwZ©¸‡jv NUvb, Zv RvbyK gvbyl| †g‡qiv Gevi gyL LyjyK, A‡bK †Zv gyL ey‡R _vKv n‡jv, Avi KZ! evsjv‡`‡ki GK j¤ú‡Ui gy‡Lvk D‡b¥vPb K‡iwQjvg e‡j mviv †`k Avgv‡K Akøxj fvlvq MvjvMvwj K‡i‡Q, cwðge‡½I GKB NUbv N‡U‡Q| †hb mybxj m¤ú‡K© Avwg GKwU A¶i evwb‡q e‡jwQ! †h nqivwbi wkKvi n‡q‡Q, Zv‡K Am¤§vb K‡i, Acgvb K‡i, †h nqivwb K‡i‡Q Zv‡K gv_vq Zy‡j m¤§vb †`wL‡q Giv AveviI cÖgvY K‡i‡Q †h Giv KZUv bxP, KZUv Amf¨, KZUv bvixwe‡Ølx!
ï‡bwQ ev`j emy ‘eB‡qi †`k’-G mybxj‡K gnvgvbe wn‡m‡e eY©bv Ki‡Z wM‡q Avgv‡K hv‡”QZvB fvlvq MvjvMvwj K‡i‡Qb, Avgvi m¤ú‡K© e¯—v e¯—v wg‡_¨ †X‡j‡Qb| mybx‡ji cÖksmv Ki‡Z †M‡j Zuvi †jLv wb‡q K_v ejyb, Zuvi Rxe‡bi fv‡jv fv‡jv w`K wb‡q K_v ejyb, Zv‡ZB †Zv Zuv‡K eo Kiv hvq| Avgv‡K †QvU K‡i Zuv‡K eo Ki‡Z n‡e †Kb? GZ QjPvZyix Avi wg‡_¨i AvkÖq wb‡Z n‡e †Kb? ev`j emy mybxj‡K Avgvi †P‡qI †ewk †P‡bb| †nb¯’v nqivwbi Lei Zuvi ARvbv bq| wKš‘ cyi“l cyi“‡liB c¶ †b‡e| hZ eo †jLKB nB bv †Kb, Avwg ZLb †KejB ‘‡g‡qgvbyl’| ‘‡g‡qgvbyl’ gyL Lyj‡j Iuiv mK‡jB Lye ivM K‡ib|
11. GZUv RbwcÖqZv Avcbvi cÖvc¨ wQj bv| †gŠjev`xiv Avcbv‡K RbwcÖq K‡i‡Q| Kx ej‡eb?
DËi : G‡Kev‡i D‡ëv| Avwg Lye RbwcÖq †jLK wQjvg e‡j †gŠjev`xiv Avgvi Kjg †K‡o wb‡Z †P‡q‡Q ev Avgvi †jLv‡K eÜ Ki‡Z †P‡q‡Q ev Avgv‡K cÖv‡Y †g‡i †dj‡Z †P‡q‡Q| ARbwcÖq Abvgx †jLK‡K wb‡q Iiv gv_v Nvgvq bv| fq RbwcÖq †jLK‡K, hw` †m †jLK †gŠjev`we‡ivax †jLv †j‡L, †h `y‡Uv wcjvi †gŠjev`xiv m‡Rv‡i AuvK‡o a‡i iv‡L, ag© Avi cyi“lZš¿, †m `y‡Uv‡Z hw` dvUj awi‡q †`Iqvi g‡Zv AvNvZ Ki‡Z _v‡K †jLv w`‡q| Avwg hLb weivbeŸB mv‡j cÖ_g Avb›` cyi¯‹vi cvB, ZLbI †gŠjev`xiv Avgvi wei“‡× iv¯—vq bv‡gwb ev d‡Zvqv Rvwi K‡iwb| Gi †`o `yeQi ci K‡i‡Q| †`‡k we‡`‡k RbwcÖq n‡q DVwQ, G Zv‡`i Avi mqwb| †gŠjev`x‡`i Kvi‡Y Avgvi RbwcÖqZv ïay bóB nqwb, eis AvKvk †_‡K cvZv‡j †b‡g‡Q| I‡`i m‡½ nvZ wgwj‡q miKvi Avgvi wei“‡× gvgjv K‡i‡Q, Avgv‡K †`k †_‡K Zvwo‡q‡Q, Avi Iw`‡K Avgv‡K Zvwo‡qI †gŠjev`xiv kvš— nqwb, Zv‡`i AmsL¨ cÖPvi wgwWqv wbiš—i e¨¯— †_‡K‡Q Avgvi wei“‡× wg‡_¨ Kyrmv iUv‡Z, Avgvi cÖwZ gvby‡li N…Yvi D‡`ÖK Ki‡Z, gvby‡li gb †_‡K Avgv‡K gy‡Q †dj‡Z, Avgvi eB-cvV †_‡K cvVK‡K weiZ ivL‡Z| eQ‡ii ci eQi Iiv gMR‡avjvB K‡i‡Q mvaviY gvby‡li| Avwg bvwK we‡Rwci UvKv wb‡q j¾v wj‡LwQ| Avgvi bvwK PwiÎ fv‡jv bq| GKUv Aí wkw¶Z, ag©fxi“, Kyms¯‹viv”Qbœ bvixwe‡ivax mgv‡R Avgvi wei“‡× AccÖPvi Rv`yi g‡Zv KvR K‡i‡Q| GK GK K‡i Avgvi eB wbwl× n‡q‡Q| cÖKvk‡Kiv eB cÖKvk eÜ K‡i w`‡q‡Q| cÎ cwÎKv Avgvi †jLv Qvcv‡bv eÜ K‡i w`‡q‡Q| †h †jLK me‡P‡q RbwcÖq Ges bw›`Z †jLK wQj evsjv‡`‡k, †Kej †gŠjev`x, ag©ev`x, bvixwe‡ivax cyi“lZvwš¿K‡`i AccÖPv‡i †m Aí wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B GKUv wbw›`Z Avi wbwl× e¯—y‡Z cwiYZ n‡jv| GZ we‡ivwaZv, GK we‡Øl, GZ AvµgY, GZ wb›`v, GZ Kyrmv, GZ AccÖPvi, GZ wbôyiZv, GZ Amf¨Zv, GZ iƒpZv, GZ Ab¨vq, GZ AwePvi Avgvi cÖvc¨ wQj bv|
12. Ab¨vb¨ †`‡k Avcwb †jLK wn‡m‡e †Kgb m¤§vb †c‡q _v‡Kb?
DËi : †jLK wn‡m‡e m¤§vb †Kv_vI cÖPÐ cwigv‡Y cvB| †Kv_vI wKQyUv Kg| †Kv_vI gvSvwi ai‡bi| †Kv_vI PjbmB| wKš‘ †KvbI †`k evsjvi g‡Zv, evsjv‡`k Ges cwðge‡½i g‡Zv, GZ Acgvb Avgv‡K K‡i bv| c…w_exi Ab¨ †KvbI †`k ev ivR¨ †_‡K Avgv‡K Zvwo‡q †`Iqv nq bv| wKQy DMÖcš’x ag©ev`x‡`i g‡Zi m‡½ Avgvi gZ †g‡j bv e‡j Avgv‡K R‡b¥i g‡Zv †Pv‡Li Avovj Kiv nq bv, wbe©vmb`Ð †`Iqv nq bv| GZ Awe‡ePK Avi GZ Amwnòy n‡Z †KvbI †`k‡KB †`wLwb| GZ fqsKi wbg©gZv †KvbI †`k Avgvi m‡½ KLbI K‡iwb|
13. Ab¨ †`k †_‡K D‡jøL Kivi g‡Zv cyi¯‹vi|
DËi : Av‡Q †ek wKQy| Avgvi AvZ¥Rxebx c‡o †`Lyb| cv‡eb| bq‡Zv †hme eB‡qi R¨v‡K‡U cwiwPwZ Av‡Q. c‡o wbb, I‡Z wj÷ Av‡Q|
14. †gŠjev`x‡`i Pv‡c A‡bK wkíx mvwnwZ¨K †`kQvov n‡q‡Qb| gKeyj wd`v †nv‡mb, mvjgvb i“kw`, Avqvb wniwm Avjx cÖgyL| Avcwb wb‡R‡K Gu‡`i †_‡K Avjv`v g‡b K‡ib?
DËi : KZ¸‡jv bvg †`wL †ZvZv cvwLi g‡Zv ïay gyL¯’B K‡i‡Qb| Gu‡`i BwZnvm Rvbvi †Póv K‡i‡Qb e‡j †Zv g‡b n‡”Q bv| huv‡`i bvg D‡jøL K‡i‡Qb, Zuv‡`i g‡a¨ GK gKeyj wd`v †nv‡mb Qvov †gŠjev`x‡`i Pv‡c Avi †KD †`k Qv‡obwb| mvjgvb i“kw` Zuvi `k eQi eqm †_‡K Bsj¨v‡Û _v‡Kb| Bsj¨vÛB Zuvi †`k| †gŠjev`x‡`i Pv‡c Zuv‡K Bsj¨vÛ Qvo‡Z nqwb| eis wZwb ILv‡b cÖPyi wbivcËv i¶x †c‡q‡Qb| Avqvb wniwm Avjx †mvgvwjqv †_‡K G‡m †b`vij¨v‡Û †_‡K‡Qb, I‡`‡ki bvMwiK n‡q‡Qb, †gŠjev`xiv ûgwK †`Iqvi ci †b`vij¨v‡ÛB wQ‡jb, ILv‡bB wbivcËv †c‡Zb| GKmgq cy‡ivbv dvBj cÎ †Nu‡U GKRb WvP msm` m`m¨ †ei Ki‡jb †h †b`vij¨v‡Û AvkÖq PvIqvi mgq Avqvb wb‡Ri m¤ú‡K© wg‡_¨ Z_¨ w`‡qwQ‡jb, wg‡_¨ Z_¨ †`Iqvi Kvi‡Y Avqv‡bi cvj©v‡g‡›Ui m`m¨ c`Uv P‡j hvq| ZLb wZwb Av‡gwiKvb G›UvicÖvBR bv‡gi GK Wvbcš’x msMV‡bi Avgš¿Y †c‡q Av‡gwiKvq cvwo †`b, ILv‡bB ¯‹jvi wn‡m‡e Av‡Qb| Avgvi wbe©vmb Iu‡`i †P‡q Avjv`v| gKeyj wd`v †nv‡mb‡K fviZ miKvi †`k †_‡K †ei K‡i †`qwb| Avgv‡K evsjv‡`k miKvi †`k †_‡K †ei K‡i w`‡q‡Q Ges Kywo eQi n‡jv, Av‡Rv †`‡k wdi‡Z w`‡”Q bv| gKeyj wd`v †nv‡mb‡K D‡ëv fviZ miKvi A‡bK Aby‡iva K‡iwQj †`‡k †divi Rb¨| wKš‘ wZwb KvZv‡ii bvMwiKZ¡ wb‡qwQ‡jb, †`‡k †d‡ibwb|
15. Avcwb we‡q we‡ivax| A_P Avcwb Av‡M we‡q K‡i‡Qb| ZLb †ev‡Sbwb we‡q bvgK cÖwZôv‡bi AmviZvi K_v?
DËi : bv| ZLb eywSwb| ZLb eywSwb e‡jB †Zv we‡q K‡iwQjvg| Avwg wK Rb¥ †_‡KB GKRb me©Ávbx gvbyl? Avwg †Zv VK‡Z VK‡Z, mB‡Z mB‡Z, fyM‡Z fyM‡Z hv †kLvi wk‡LwQ| A‡b¨i Rxeb †_‡KI †kLv hvq, A‡b¨i AwfÁZv †_‡KI Avgiv A‡bK wkwL| Z‡e wb‡Ri Rxe‡bi AwfÁZvi m‡½ Zvi †KvbI Zyjbv nq bv| we‡q K‡iwQjvg e‡jB †Zv we‡q bvgK cÖwZôv‡bi AmviZv ey‡SwQ| cyi“lZvwš¿K mgv‡R we‡qUv †h fxlY KyrwmZ GKUv cÖfy `vmxi m¤úK©‡K gyL ey‡R e‡q †eov‡bv, Zv we‡q bv Ki‡j AZ nv‡o nv‡o eyS‡Z cviZvg bv| †h mgv‡R bvixi mgvbvwaKvi Av‡Q, †m mgv‡R we‡qUv †KD Ki‡Z PvB‡j Ki‡ZB cv‡i|
16. msmvi ej‡Z Kx †ev‡Sb?
DËi : msmvi ej‡Z msmviB eywS| wPiKvj Avwg Avgvi GKvi msmviB K‡iwQ| Avgvi GLbKvi msmviwU Avgvi Avi Avgvi †eov‡ji| Avwg Lye msmvix gvbyl| evwoNi †MvQv‡bv, mvRv‡bv, wb‡R evRvi Kiv, evMvb Kiv, ivbœvevbœv Kiv, eÜy‡`i †bgš—bœ Kiv, ˆn ˆP K‡i LvIqv, AvÇv †`Iqv, Gme †Zv Av‡QB, Avi hLb GKv, bxieZv ï‡q _v‡K cv‡k, ZLb fvwe, wjwL, cwo| GB mgqUv Avgvi Lye wcÖq| wcÖq AviI G Kvi‡Y †h, Avgvi fvevi, †jLvi, covi Rb¨ †h ˆbtkã cÖ‡qvRb, †h wbR©bZv cÖ‡qvRb Zv Avwg PgrKvi †c‡q hvB| †KD wPrKvi Kivi †bB, †KvbI wKQy `vwe Kivi, Av‡`k Kivi, Dc‡`k †`Iqvi, agK †`Iqvi †KD †bB| `v`vwMwi ev ¯^vgxwMwi †`Lv‡bvi †KD †bB GLv‡b| GB bv _vKvUv msmv‡i me‡P‡q †ewk cÖ‡qvRb|
msmviUv n‡”Q ¯^vaxbZv Avi wbivcËv| G `y‡Uv hw` bv _v‡K, Z‡e †m msmvi msmvi bq| ïayB mš¿vm|
17. kvnevM Av‡›`vjb‡K Kx †Pv‡L †`‡Lb?
DËi : wekvj GK e¨vcvi NwU‡q‡Q evsjv‡`‡ki Zi“Y cÖRb¥| Avwg †Zv ixwZgZ gy»| †bv Kvw›UÖ di DB‡gb bv‡g †h wdÖ_U eøM wjwL Avwg, I‡Z Aš—Z c‡b‡iv †lv‡jvUv eøM wj‡LwQ evsjv‡`‡ki mv¤úÖwZK †mKyjvi Av‡›`vjb wb‡q| †ek wKQy e³…Zv wQj Avgvi MZ `ywZb gv‡m, BI‡ivwcqvb cvj©v‡g‡›U, †ejwRqvb cvj©v‡g‡›U, KvbvWvq, dÖv‡Ý, Avqvij¨v‡Û- GB Av‡›`vjb wb‡q e‡jwQ| †`k wb‡q nZvkv Qvov Avi wKQyB †Zv wQj bv| kvnevM GKUy Avkv RvwM‡q‡Q| GKUv †UÖÛ ˆZwi †Zv n‡jv Aš—Z| gvbyl †`wL‡q w`j cÖ‡qvR‡b j¶ j¶ †jvK c‡_ †b‡g ag©xq ee©iZvi cÖwZev` Ki‡Z Rv‡b| Gi Av‡M †Zv gyL ey‡R _vKvUvB wQj wbqg| K_v bv ejvUvB wQj ixwZ| fq cvIqvUvB wQj ms¯‹…wZ|
Z‡e kvnevM Av‡›`vj‡bi mewKQy‡KB †h GKkq GKk b¤^i w`‡qwQ, Zv bq| Avwg g„Zy¨`‡Ði wei“‡×| g„Zy¨`‡Ði †KvbI `vwe Avwg †g‡b wbBwb| Z‡e †gŠjev`we‡ivax I‡`i †h Av‡›`vjb, Zv fxlYfv‡e mg_©b K‡iwQ|
18. AvMvgx cÖR‡b¥i Kv‡Q Kx wn‡m‡e wPwýZ n‡Z Avcbvi fv‡jv jvM‡e? GKRb †jLK wn‡m‡e bvwK GKRb A¨vKwUwf÷ wn‡m‡e?
DËi : AvMvgx cÖRb¥ †Zv †fov bq †h mevB GK c‡_B hv‡e| KviI Kwe wn‡m‡e, KviI †jLK wn‡m‡e Avgv‡K fv‡jv jvM‡Z cv‡i, KviI A¨vKwUwf÷ wn‡m‡e, KviI ïay gvbylUv‡K, Zvi Av‡cvmnxb msMÖvgUv‡K nq‡Zv fv‡jv jvM‡e, KviI KviI fv‡jv jvM‡e Zvi mZZv Avi wbôv‡K| KZ gvbyl KZ iKgfv‡e wPwýZ Ki‡Z cv‡i Avgv‡K| †KvbI †jLKB bq, ej‡e †KD| †KD †KD wPwýZ Ki‡e bvw¯—K wn‡m‡e| A_ev, nq‡Zv fy‡jB hv‡e Avgv‡K| Kx n‡e fwel¨‡Z Zv wb‡q Avwg wPwš—Z bB †gv‡UI| Avgv‡K g‡b ivLyK ev Avgv‡K fy‡j hvK, GKB K_v| K‡e †hb GKUv KweZv wj‡LwQjvg, AgiZ¡ bv‡g| AgiZ¡ †b‡e? ARmÖ AgiZ¡ Avgvi covi †Uwe‡j, eB‡qi Avjgvwi‡Z, weQvbvq, evwj‡ki Zjvq… Ni †_‡K †e‡iv‡j AgiZ¡ Avgvi e¨v‡M, Avgvi c¨v‡›Ui c‡K‡U, Avgvi kv‡U©, Py‡j… Kx K‡i K‡e †h AgiZ¡ Avgvi †LuvR †c‡qwQj! AgiZ¡ †b‡e bvI, hZ Lywk| Agi‡Z¡i KuvUv Ggb †eu‡a †h mvivivZ Ny‡gv‡Z cvwi bv| hZUyKy Av‡Q me †KD wb‡q wb‡j wKQyUv wb¯—vi cvB| Agi‡Z¡ wek¦vm †bB Avgvi|
†jLK : wbe©vwmZ †jwLKv| evsjv‡`k cÖwZw`b