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ˆmq` Avjx kvn wMjvwb GKwU i“wU wQowQ‡jb; Mig cvwb †L‡q wb‡jb| Gici PygyK w`‡jb Pv‡q| cÖwZw`b weKvj PviUvq GUvB Zvi bvkZv| ˆmq` Avjx kvn wMjvwb Nwoi KuvUv a‡i i“wUb †g‡b P‡jb|

†kl iv‡Z Zvnv¾y` bvgvR, cwÎKv cov, f‡qm Ae Av‡gwiKv Ges wewewmÕi wnw›` I D`©y mvwf©‡mi Lei w`‡b `yÕevi †kvbv, GK NÈv e¨vqvg Ges Wv‡qwii GK c…ôv †jLv| evwo‡Z †bB †Kv‡bv wUwf|

KviY, wZwb weÁvcb¸‡jv cQ›` K‡ib bv| Avi n¨uv, †Kv‡bv Av‡jvPbv bq fvi‡Zi mv‡_, †h ch©š— bv Zviv Kvk¥x‡i RvwZm‡•Ni Aax‡b MY‡fvU Abyôv‡bi Iqv`v Kivi K_v ¯^xKvi K‡i †bq| ÔBwÛqv Uy‡WÕ mvgwqKxi e¨e¯’vcbv m¤úv`K Kv‡ewi evgRvB‡K wMjvwb GUvB mvd Rvwb‡q w`‡jb| Gici Zvi mv‡_ P‡j BwÛqv Uz‡Wi cÖ‡kœvËi ce©|

cÖkœ : Avcbvi wei“‡× ivóª‡`ÖvwnZvi †h Awf‡hvM, †m m¤ú‡K© Kx fve‡Qb?
DËi : Avgvi wei“‡× 90wU GdAvBAvi `v‡qi Kiv n‡q‡Q G ch©š—| ZvB 91 b¤^i GdAvBAvi †Kv‡bv e¨vcviB bv Avgvi Rb¨| hv kÖxbM‡i e‡j _vwK, †mUvB 21 A‡±vei e‡jwQ w`wjø‡Z| GUv KwVb ev¯—eZv| Gi gv‡b, R¤§y I Kvk¥xi weZwK©Z f~LÊ| GUv fvi‡Zi Awe‡”Q`¨ A½ bq|

1947-Gi 27 A‡±vei fviZ GUv‡K ejcÖ‡qv‡M Rei`Lj K‡i wb‡q‡Q| Kvk¥x‡ii fvi‡Z mshyw³i `wjj wb‡q A‡bK cÖkœ| gnvivRv nwi wms G‡Z ¯^v¶i †`qvi K_v| wKš‘ mBUv wK wQj? cqjv K_v n‡jv, Zv wQj bv| wØZxq K_v, †h w`b G‡Z Zvi mB †`qvi K_v wQj, †m w`bwU‡Z wZwb kÖxbMi †_‡K moK c‡_ hvw”Q‡jb R¤§y| Zv n‡j wKfv‡e wZwb mB w`‡Z m¶g n‡jb? Gw`‡K, (fvi‡Zi †m mg‡qi cÖavbgš¿x) cwÊZ RIqv‡ni jvj †bni“ jvj P‡K ej‡jb, ÔAvgv‡`i †mbvevwnbx Kvk¥x‡i wPiw`b _vK‡e bv| Avi Avcbviv, Kvk¥xievmxiv, wb‡R‡`i gy¯—vKwej (fwel¨r) wba©vi‡Yi my‡hvM cv‡eb|Ó 1948 mv‡ji Rvbyqvwi‡Z fvi‡Z Kvk¥xi Bmy¨ wb‡q †Mj RvwZm‡•N|

we¯—vwiZ Av‡jvPbv †k‡l †mLv‡b GUvB ¯^xK…Z n‡jv †h, ÔR¤§y I Kvk¥xi fvi‡Zi Ask bq| GUv weZwK©Z GjvKv| IB A‡ji RbMY‡K AvZ¥wbqš¿‡Yi AwaKvi †`qv DwPZ|Õ G cÖm‡½ cÖ_g cÖ¯—ve cvm n‡qwQj 1948 mv‡ji 21 GwcÖj| fviZ GUv †g‡b wb‡q G‡Z ¯^v¶iI w`‡jv| Gfv‡e 18wU cÖ¯—v‡e fviZ mB w`‡q‡Q| GLb Avgiv hw` ewj, †h me Iqv`v Avcbviv K‡i‡Qb, Avi †h cÖ¯—ve¸‡jv‡Z Avcbviv w`‡q‡Qb ¯^v¶i, †m¸‡jv †g‡nievwb K‡i ev¯—evqb Ki“b, Zv Kx K‡i cvc e‡j MY¨ nq? (Kvk¥x‡i) †Kb fviZ‡K ¸wj I Kuv`v‡b M¨v‡mi †kj Qyo‡Z n‡”Q? †KbB ev RbwbivcËv AvB‡bi AvIZvq Avgv‡`i Zi“Y‡`i‡K e›`x Ki‡Z n‡”Q?
cÖkœ : wKš‘ GUv †Zv P‡j Avm‡Q 63 eQi a‡i| Gme wKQyi †kl †Kv_vq?
DËi : fviZ ¶gZvi JׇZ¨ fyM‡Q| Z‡e Avgiv wek¦vm Kwi GKRb Av‡Qb whwb gnvkw³; wZwb me©kw³gvb Avjøvn| wZwb GB JׇZ¨i Aemvb NUv‡eb ˆewK| me©kw³gvb Avgv‡`i RbMY‡K B”Qvkw³ w`‡q‡Qb fviZxq m¤úÖmviYev` †gvKv‡ejvi Rb¨| fviZ eo †`k| wKš‘ †m Pvq Av‡iv| †Kej Kvk¥xi‡K wbR wbqš¿‡Y ivLvB bq; fviZ Pvq evsjv‡`k‡K wb‡Ri Aš—f©y³ Ki‡Z; Pvq wbqš¿Y Ki‡Z cvwK¯—vb‡K| GgbwK, we‡Rwci GK †bZv e‡j‡Qb, me©`vB AvdMvwb¯—vb wQj fvi‡ZiB Ask|

cÖkœ : fvi‡Zi †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv As‡k wK GB `…wófw½ MÖnY Kiv n‡q‡Q?DËi : nuv| MZ 21 A‡±vei w`wjø‡Z †h †mwgbvi n‡jv, †mLv‡b †Zv GUv wQj ¯úó| GUv N‡U‡Q| †Kbbv, ZvivI `y‡f©vM †cvnv‡”Qb| fviZxq ee©iZvi ZvivI wkKvi| Zviv Rv‡bb, Kvk¥xwi‡`i msMÖvg b¨vqm½Z| Av‡iv Rv‡bb, Kvk¥x‡ii RbMY Zv‡`i msMÖv‡g Rvb, gvj Ges Iqv³ (mgq) DrmM© K‡i‡Q| hw`I fviZxq wgwWqv GB msMÖv‡gi mwZ¨Kvi wPÎ Zy‡j ai‡Z m¶g bq, B›Uvi‡b‡Ui hy‡M Ges wek¦wgwWqvi Øviv fvi‡Zi gvbyl eyS‡Z cvi‡e Kvk¥x‡i Kx NU‡Q|

cÖkœ : Avcwb N…Yv K‡ib Kv‡K, fvi‡Zi RbMY bv miKvi‡K?
DËi : †Kv‡bv gvbemš—vb‡K N…Yv Kivi AbygwZ Bmjv‡g †bB| GUv cvc| Avgv‡`i AvcwË fvi‡Zi mvgÖvR¨ev`x bxwZ Ges AÜ kw³gËvi e¨vcv‡i| Kvk¥x‡ii cÖK…Z cwiw¯’wZi wel‡q fviZxq RbMY m‡PZb bq| Avgiv fvi‡Zi eZ©gvb ivR‰bwZK †bZ…‡Z¡i we‡ivax|

cÖkœ : wKš‘ Kvk¥x‡ii †bZvivI wK Kvk¥xi‡K bx‡P bvwg‡q †`bwb?
DËi : 1947, Ô53 I Ô75 mv‡j R¤§y I Kvk¥x‡ii RbMY‡K cÖZviYv Kivi Rb¨ Zv‡`i‡KI `vqx Kiv hvq| R¤§y-Kvk¥x‡ii, †mB mv‡_ fviZ I cvwK¯—v‡bi RbM‡Yi `y‡f©v‡Mi Rb¨ me‡P‡q †ewk `vqx †h †jvKwU, wZwb n‡jb †kL †gvnv¤§` Ave`yjøvn| Kvk¥xi m¼U bv _vK‡j fviZ I cvwK¯—v‡bi g‡a¨ m¤úK© _vK‡Zv PgrKvi| ZLb R¤§y I Kvk¥xi wb‡Ri j¶¨ AR©b Ki‡Z cviZ| 1947-G Ave`yjøvn Kvk¥x‡i fviZxq evwnbx‡K ¯^vMZ Rvbv‡jb Ges fvi‡Zi mv‡_ mshyw³i `wjj‡K w`‡jb mg_©b| Gici wZwb 1953 ch©š— gyL¨gš¿x wn‡m‡e cwiPvjbv Ki‡jb R¤§yi Aš—Z AvovB jvL gymjgv‡bi MYnZ¨v Ges Kgc‡¶ `k jvL gymjgv‡bi †`kZ¨vM| Gme mv½ n‡j 1953 mv‡j wZwb ej‡jb, ÔfvB, gyS‡m MvjwZ †nv Mvwq (Avwg fyj K‡i †d‡jwQ)|Õ 1975 mv‡j Avevi wZwb Kvk¥xwi RbMY‡K cÖZvwiZ K‡i‡Qb| †m eQi ¯^v¶i K‡i‡Qb Bw›`iv MvÜxi mv‡_ Pyw³|

cÖkœ : wKš‘ cvwK¯—vwb †bZ…‡Z¡i f~wgKv wb‡qI †Zv K_v †Zvjv hvq|
DËi : ZvivI fyj K‡i‡Qb| wKš‘ Zv‡`i †Zv wek¦vmNvZK ejv hvq bv, †hgb ejv hvq Kvk¥xwi †bZ…Z¡‡K| cvwK¯—vb me mg‡qB Avgv‡`i AvZ¥wbqš¿YvwaKvi‡K mg_©b K‡i‡Qb| Zviv Avgv‡`i Rb¨ GKvwaK hy× K‡i‡Qb fvi‡Zi mv‡_| Zv‡`i Zi“Yiv GLv‡b e›`x n‡q‡Q|

cÖkœ : Avcwb †Kb msjv‡c Ask wb‡”Qb bv? msjv‡ci D‡`¨v³vivI ej‡Qb, Kvk¥xi weZwK©Z welq|
DËi : GUv †Kej Kvj‡¶c‡Yi Rb¨ Ges Ievgv‡K GUv †`Lv‡bvi Rb¨ †h, fviZ R¤§y I Kvk¥x‡ii RbMY‡K wb‡q e¨¯—| Avgiv 5 `dv dg©yjv w`‡qwQ| miKvi hw` Avš—wiK n‡Zv, Zvi Pyc _vKvi †Kv‡bv KviY NUZ bv|

cÖkœ : Av‡gwiKv wK Avcbv‡K m‡›`‡ni †Pv‡L †`‡L bv Ges we‡k¦i Bmjvwg †gŠjev`x‡`i Aš—f©y³ e‡j g‡b Ki‡Q bv?
DËi : g~j welq n‡jv, fvi‡Zi mk¯¿ `Lj`vwi| GLv‡b Bmjvgcš’x wKsev †mKyjvi nevi cÖkœ †Kv‡Ì‡K Av‡¯— B”QvK…Zfv‡eB GB weåvwš— ˆZwi Kiv n‡q‡Q| Avgv‡`i msL¨vMwiô gvbylB gymwjg| Zv n‡j, Avgiv Kxfv‡e Bmjv‡gi K_v bv e‡j cvwi? Avcbviv wK Avkv K‡ib, gymjgvb cwiPq Avgiv A¯^xKvi Kie?

cÖkœ : Kvk¥xi Bmjvgx ivóª nIqvi m¤¢vebv Av‡Q wK?
DËi : Ggb †Kv‡bv †`k eZ©gv‡b †bB †hLv‡b cÖK…Z A‡_©B Bmjv‡gi PP©v Kiv n‡”Q| hLbB LuvwU gymjgvbiv Bmjvwg Rxebaviv MÖnY Ki‡e, ZLb cÖwZwôZ n‡e mywePvi, mvg¨ I ˆbwZK g~j¨‡eva|

cÖkœ : Kvk¥xi wK Bmjvwg iv‡óªi g‡Wj n‡e?
DËi : me©kw³gvb RbMY‡K mvnvh¨ Ki“b, hv‡Z Kvk¥xi g‡Wj n‡Z cv‡i| Avm‡j GLb cÖK…Z †Kv‡bv Bmjvwg ivóª †bB| A‡b‡KB Zv nevi `vwe K‡ib e‡U; Z‡e †Kv_vI †m PwiÎ †`Lv hvq bv|

cÖkœ : Kvk¥x‡ii gvbyl hw` cvwK¯—v‡bi mv‡_ †hvM w`‡Z Pvq, Zvn‡j Kx Ki‡eb?
DËi : G gyn~‡Z© †mUv cÖkœ bq| cÖkœ n‡jv, RbMY‡K †m AwaKvi Aek¨B w`‡Z n‡e| (Zvi †Q‡j bvwmg ej‡jb, Ôgvbyl fvi‡Zi c‡¶I †fvU w`‡Z cv‡i|Õ wMjvwb Zvi †Q‡j‡K K_vi gv‡S weNœ bv NUv‡Z ej‡jb †Rvi w`‡q)

cÖkœ : Kvk¥xixiv wK Bmjvwg iv‡óªi Rb¨ cÖ¯—yZ?
DËi : cÖ¯—yZ ÔKviYv coZv n¨vqÕ (Ki‡Z n‡e)| GLb †Zv Avgiv µxZ`vm| w`wjø cvewjK ¯‹yj I Avwg© ¯‹y‡ji g‡Zv cÖwZôvb¸‡jv Zi“Y‡`i gbgvbwmKZv ˆZwi Ki‡Q; Zv‡`i fviZxqKiY Ki‡Q| mevi Av‡M, Avgv‡`i ¯^vaxbZv AR©b Kiv PvB|

cÖkœ : GB bZyb iv‡óª Kvk¥xwi cwÊZ‡`i wK ¯^vMZ Rvbv‡bv n‡e?
DËi : Zviv †Zv Avgv‡`i fvB| †h †Kv‡bv mg‡q Zv‡`i ¯^vMZg|

cÖkœ : Kvk¥x‡ii evB‡ii gymjgvb‡`i e¨vcv‡i Kx ej‡eb? Zv‡`i‡KI wK ¯^vMZ Rvbv‡eb?
DËi : nuv, we‡kl K‡i R¤§y‡Z| mxgvš— A‡ji jvL jvL gvbyl AvRv` Kvk¥xi P‡j †M‡Q|

cÖkœ : wKš‘ hw` Kvk¥xi cvwK¯—v‡bi c‡¶ hvq, fvi‡Zi gymjgvb‡`i †¶‡Î wK †Kv‡bv cÖwZwµqv n‡e bv?
DËi : fvi‡Zi gymjgvbiv R¤§y I Kvk¥x‡ii mgm¨vi mv‡_ RwoZ bq| Avi hw` wKQy N‡UB, †mUv fviZxq cÖkvm‡bi `ye©jZv| Rwgq‡Z Djvgvi mfvcwZ Avmv` gv`vwbi wee…wZi w`‡K j¶ Ki“b| wZwb e‡j‡Qb, Ks‡MÖm kvmbvg‡j 40 nvRv‡ii †ewk mv¤úÖ`vwqK `v½v n‡q‡Q| hviv evewi gmwR` aŸsm K‡i w`‡jv, Zv‡`i wei“‡× †Kv‡bv e¨e¯’v bqv nqwb| †`Lyb, Kx N‡U‡Q ¸Riv‡U| fvi‡Zi mk¯¿ `Lj`vwi †_‡K Kvk¥xi gy³ n‡q †M‡j Gi Rb¨ fviZxq gymjgvb‡`i †hb `y‡f©vM †cvnv‡Z bv nq|

cÖkœ : †hme Zi“Y (Kvk¥x‡i) iv¯—vq bvg‡Q, Zv‡`i m¤ú‡K© ejyb| Zv‡`i †cÖiYvi Drm Kx?
DËi : †hLv‡bB Avwg Zi“Y‡`i D‡Ï‡k e³e¨ †i‡LwQ i¨vwj, †mwgbvi wKsev gmwR‡`, e‡jwQ, Zv‡`i Aby‡cÖiYvi Drm KyiAvb I mybœvn| Gi mydj GLb cvIqv ïi“ n‡q‡Q| m‡PZbZv †`Lv hv‡”Q| Gi m~Pbv 1947 †_‡K Rvgvqv‡Zi ¯’vwcZ ¯‹yj¸‡jv Ges Avgiv †hme eBcy¯—K cÖKvk K‡iwQ, Zvi gva¨‡g|

cÖkœ : (fvi‡Zi) GB miKvi Kvk¥xi Bmy¨‡Z KZUv Avš—wiK?
DËi : 1947 †_‡K Abym…Z, cyi‡bv †mB g¨vwKqv‡fwbqvb †KŠkjB Zviv e¨envi Ki‡Qb|

cÖkœ : wKš‘ Avcwb wbe©vP‡bI Ask wb‡q‡Qb| ZLb Avcbvi Kx j¶¨ wQj?
DËi : Avgiv MYZvwš¿K cš’vq Avgv‡`i KɇK D”PwKZ Ki‡Z †P‡qwQ Ges †f‡ewQ, fviZ Gi cÖwZ kÖ×v †`Lv‡e| Z‡e fviZ G‡Z †gv‡UI mvov †`qwb| Avcwb KvD‡K †`qv‡j †V‡m ai‡j e›`yK ev cv_i nv‡Z Zy‡j †bqv Qvov Dcvq _vK‡e bv|

cÖkœ : wew”QbœZvev`x †bZ…e…‡›`i gv‡S wK wefvRb †bB?
DËi : Zviv mevB wbR wbR ch©v‡q KvR Ki‡Qb| wefvRb cy‡ivcywi AZx‡Zi welq|

cÖkœ : ZvB Avcwb n‡jb Kvk¥x‡i ÔAvRvw`i `v`vÕ, A_©vr †m e¨w³ whwb fviZ‡K wef³ Ki‡Z Pvb|
DËi : Avcbvi hv B”Qv, †mUvB Avgv‡K ej‡Z cv‡ib| Avwg mnR-mvaviY gvbyl| m‡PZb gymwjg n‡Z †c‡i †ek Me©‡eva Kwi| Bmjvgx Rxeb e¨e¯’v Abymi‡Yi Rb¨ me©kw³gvb Avjøvn †hb Avgv‡`i mvnvh¨ K‡ib| hv †nvK, Kvk¥xi KL‡bv fvi‡Zi Ask bq| Zv n‡j Avwg fviZ‡K wef³ Kivi K_v DV‡e †Kb?

cÖkœ : Avcwb wK ¯^vaxb Kvk¥x‡ii bvMwiK nevi Rb¨ Ai“ÜZx ivq‡K Avgš¿Y Rvbv‡eb?
DËi : wZwb hw` cQ›` K‡ib, †Kb Avgš¿Y Ki‡ev bv?