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mvÿvrKviwU Avgv‡`i mgq WUK†gi cvVK‡`i Rb¨ cÖKvk Kiv nj :
mKv‡ji Lei : evsjv‡`‡ki mvwe©K wk¶ve¨e¯’v I D”Pwk¶vi gvb wb‡q Avcbvi gZvgZ Kx?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : wk¶v †¶‡Î Kvw·¶Z j¶¨ AR©‡b A‡bKUvB GwM‡q †M‡Q evsjv‡`k| wk¶vi cÖwZwU ¯—‡i wk¶v_©xi msL¨v †e‡o‡Q, cv‡mi nvi †e‡o‡Q, wk¶vcÖwZôv‡bi msL¨vI †e‡o‡Q| GgbwK D”Pwk¶vq eZ©gv‡b 35wU miKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq I 79wU †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq cvV`vb Ki‡Q| Z‡e †h nv‡i wk¶K, wk¶v_©x, wk¶vcÖwZôvb I wk¶v-DcKiY evo‡Q †mB nv‡i wk¶vi gvb ev‡owb| G Ae¯’v ïay evsjv‡`‡k bq, mvivwe‡k¦ wk¶vi ¸YMZ gvb e…w× cv‡”Q wK bv †mUv GLb Av‡jvwPZ welq| hy‡Mvc‡hvMx wk¶v wbwðZ Ki‡Z n‡j DbœZ iv󪸇jvi wk¶v`vb c×wZ, KvwiKyjvg I Avš—R©vwZK gv‡bi cwi‡ekI Acwinvh©|
wKQy wk¶v_©x wb‡R‡`i †gavi ¸‡Y †h‡Kv‡bv cwi‡e‡k cÖwZfvi ¯^v¶i iv‡L| Avevi wKQy wk¶v_©x wek¦we`¨vjq ev wk¶vcÖwZôv‡bi cwi‡ek I cvVcÖwµqvi Kvi‡YI `¶ Ges †hvM¨ n‡q I‡V| ZvB wk¶vi me ¯—‡i we‡kl K‡i D”Pwk¶v cÖwZôv‡b M‡elYv I ÁvbvR©‡bi Dchy³ cwi‡ek _vKv `iKvi| evsjv‡`‡ki K‡qKUv miKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq we‡kl K‡i XvKv wek¦we`¨vjq, PÆMÖvg wek¦we`¨vjq, ivRkvnx wek¦we`¨vjq, ey‡qU, evsjv‡`k K…wl wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wewfbœ wefv‡M DbœZgv‡bi M‡elYv nq, Avš—R©vwZK gv‡bi cvV`vb Kiv nq| GRb¨ Gme cÖwZôv‡bi M‡elYv I mybvg mvivwe‡k¦| †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡qi g‡a¨ eª¨vK BDwbfvwm©wU, B÷I‡q÷ BDwbfvwm©wU, AvnQvb Djøvn weÁvb I cÖhyw³ wek¦we`¨vjq, b_©mvD_ BDwbfvwm©wUmn K‡qKwU wek¦we`¨vjqI Avš—R©vwZK gv‡bi MÖª¨vRy‡qU m…wó Ki‡Q|
mKv‡ji Lei : wk¶ve¨e¯’vi Dbœq‡b I ¸YMZ D”Pwk¶v wbwð‡Z Kx Kx c`‡¶c †bIqv Ri“wi e‡j g‡b Ki‡Qb?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : D”Pwk¶v cÖwZôvb mvgwMÖK wk¶ve¨e¯’vi GKUv Ask| ZvB cov‡kvbvi wb‡Pi ¯—‡i ev cÖv_wgK-gva¨wgK-D”P gva¨wgK ¯—‡i fv‡jv cov‡kvbv wbwðZ Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j D”Pwk¶vq Lye †ewk Avkvwš^Z nIqvi wKQy cvIqv hv‡e bv| `¶ ˆZwii Rb¨ miKvi‡K ch©vß cÖwk¶‡Yi e¨e¯’v Ki‡Z n‡e| wk¶v gš¿Yvjq I mswkøó cÖwZôvbmg~n‡K mwµq I h_vh_ f~wgKv ivL‡Z n‡e| wk¶vbxwZ‡K h_vh_fv‡e ev¯—evqb Ki‡Z n‡e| †hvM¨ wk¶K wb‡qvM Ki‡Z n‡e| wk¶K‡`i `vwqZ¡kxj I A½xKvive× n‡Z n‡e| wk¶K-QvÎ m¤úK© h_vh_ n‡Z n‡e| ivR‰bwZK Aw¯’iZv †_‡K wk¶v cÖwZôvb¸‡jv‡K gy³ †i‡L cov‡jLvi cwi‡ek wbwðZ Ki‡Z n‡e| cÖv_wgK I gva¨wgK ¯—‡i wk¶K‡`i cÖvB‡fU wUDkwb eÜ K‡i †kÖwYK‡¶ cvV`v‡bi g‡bv‡hvMx Ki‡Z Kvh©Ki c`‡¶c wb‡Z n‡e| cÖkœ duvmmn me ai‡bi Aw¯’wZkxjZv `~i Ki‡Z n‡e| wk¶K‡`i Rb¨ my‡hvM evov‡Z n‡e|
m‡e©vcwi GKwU ÁvbwfwËK mgvR wbg©v‡Y wk¶vi mg¯— e¨e¯’v ivóª‡K wb‡Z n‡e| evsjv‡`‡kI wk¶v Lv‡Z BD‡b‡¯‹v †NvwlZ wRwWwci 5-6 fv‡Mi Ic‡i eivÏ †`Iqv DwPZ| GQvov GLb cvewjK-cÖvB‡fU cvU©bviwkc wfwˇZ wk¶vcÖwZôvbI cwiPvjbv Kivi welqUv mswkøó KZ©…c¶ we‡ePbvq wb‡Z cv‡i|
mKv‡ji Lei : †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡qi msL¨v evo‡jI wk¶vi gvb evo‡Q bv-Ggb Awf‡hv‡Mi wel‡q Avcbvi e³e¨ Kx?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : evsjv‡`‡k D”Pwk¶vi cÖ‡qvR‡b †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq M‡o D‡V‡Q| eZ©gv‡b D”PZi wWwMÖavix wk¶v_©x‡`i eo GKUv Ask GBme cÖwZôvb †_‡K D”PZi wWwMÖ wb‡”Q| wecyjmsL¨K QvÎ-QvÎx‡K D”Pwk¶vi `vwqZ¡ †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq¸‡jv‡KB wb‡Z n‡”Q| ZvB G‡Kev‡i me cÖwZôv‡b wk¶vi gvb evo‡Q bv, GUv wVK bv| †ek wKQy †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq Avš—R©vwZK gv‡bi Mª¨vRy‡qU m…wó Ki‡Q| GB Mª¨vRy‡qUivB gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwbmn I we‡`wk †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwi Ki‡Q| Avi wKQy wKQy cÖwZôvb hviv GB j¶¨ AR©‡b †Póv Ki‡Q| Z‡e wKQy wek¦we`¨vjq Av‡Q, Zviv wk¶vi bv‡g hv Ki‡Q Zv AbvKvw·¶Z| GQvov IBme wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K †hme wk¶v_©x †ei n‡”Q ZvivI GK KwVb mgm¨v cvi Ki‡Q| Avgiv PvB, †hme †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq wk¶v bv‡gi evwYR¨ Ki‡Q Zv‡`i wei“‡× K‡Vvi c`‡¶c †bIqv DwPZ|
D”Pwk¶v wb‡q wUAvBwei m¤úÖwZ cÖKvwkZ cÖwZ‡e`b wb‡q hw` ewj Zvn‡j eje, Zviv †hfv‡e XvjvIfv‡e me †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq‡K Dc¯’vcb K‡i‡Q Zv wVK nqwb| Gi gva¨‡g we‡`‡k Avgv‡`i mybvg ¶yY&b n‡q‡Q| evsjv‡`‡ki wk¶v m¤ú‡K© Lvivc aviYv m…wó n‡q‡Q|
mKv‡ji Lei : †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡q wk¶vi gvb Dbœq‡b Kx Kx wel‡qi Ici ¸i“Z¡ †`Iqv cÖ‡qvRb?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq Ges D”Pwk¶v cÖwZôvb‡K h_vh_fv‡e cwiPvjbv I Z`viwKi Rb¨ cÖ_‡gB `iKvi kw³kvjx wbqš¿K ms¯’v| GRb¨ wek¦we`¨vjq gÄywi Kwgkb‡K (BDwRwm) cybM©Vb I ¶gZvqb Kiv Ri“wi| GQvov eZ©gv‡b †hme cÖwZôvb †hvM¨ Mª¨vRy‡qU ˆZwi Ki‡Q Zv‡`i gvbm¤§Z wk¶v cÖ`v‡b AviI g‡bv‡hvMx n‡Z n‡e, M‡elYvq eivÏ evov‡Z n‡e| Avi hviv gvbm¤§Z wk¶v wbwð‡Z †Póv Ki‡Q Zv‡`i w`‡K wbqš¿K ms¯’v I D‡`¨v³v‡`i bRi †`Iqv DwPZ|
G wel‡q Av‡iKUv K_v ewj, D”Pwk¶vq w`bw`b †h nv‡i wk¶v_©x evo‡Q †m nv‡i †Zv fv‡jv wk¶K evo‡Q bv| Avi fv‡jv m¤¢vebvgq wk¶KivI GLb †`‡ki evB‡i †_‡K wWwMÖ wb‡q †`‡k wdi‡Q bv| G bv †divi Rb¨ Kg©cwi‡ekI `vqx| ZvB †hvM¨ wk¶K †c‡Z n‡j Zv‡`i Rb¨ †m e¨e¯’v ivL‡Z n‡e| KviY †hvM¨ wk¶KivB GKgvÎ gvbm¤§Z wk¶v wbwðZ Ki‡Z cv‡i| GQvov AvDUvi K¨v¤úvm cwiPvjbv, ¯’vqx K¨v¤úv‡m bv †div, mvwU©wd‡KU evwYR¨mn bvbv Awf‡hvM IVv cÖwZôv‡bi, wei“‡× K‡Vvi e¨e¯’v wb‡Z n‡e| †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq¸‡jv hv‡Z hy‡Mvc‡hvMx KvwiKyjvg cÖYqb, M‡elYv Lv‡Z e¨q e…w× K‡i GRb¨ wbqš¿K ms¯’v‡K mwµq f~wgKv ivL‡Z n‡e| eZ©gv‡b wek¦e¨vs‡Ki Aax‡b Pjgvb †n‡Kc cÖK‡íi g‡Zv AviI bvbv cÖKí nv‡Z wb‡Z n‡e|
mKv‡ji Lei : wek¦we`¨vjq¸‡jv ch©‡e¶‡Y wek¦we`¨vjq gÄywi Kwgk‡bi (BDwRwm) f~wgKv‡K Kxfv‡e g~j¨vqb Ki‡eb?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : e½eÜyi kvmbvg‡j BDwRwm hLb cÖwZôv Kiv nq ZLb wek¦we`¨vjq wQj gvÎ QqUv| Avi GLb wek¦we`¨vjq n‡q‡Q kZvwaK| wek¦we`¨vj‡qi msL¨v GZ evo‡jI BDwRwmi KvVv‡gvq †Zgb cwieZ©b Av‡mwb| GQvov BDwRwmi ¶gZvI A‡bKUv mxgve×| GB mxgve× ¶gZv, AcÖZyj Rbej wb‡q GZ¸‡jv wek¦we`¨vjq Z`viwK Kiv m¤¢e bv| †hvM¨ e¨w³ _vKv m‡Ë¡I ¶gZv, Rbe‡ji Afv‡e A‡bK wm×vš— ev¯—evqb Kiv hv‡”Q bv| †hgb BDwRwm †_‡K wKQy wek¦we`¨vj‡q Kvh©µg e‡Ü evievi D‡`¨vM †bIqv n‡jI †mme cÖwZôvb Av`vj‡Zi gva¨‡g Kvh©µg cwiPvjbv Ki‡Q| Avwg g‡b Kwi, †`‡ki ¯^v‡_©, D”Pwk¶vi ¯^v‡_© GLb BDwRwm‡K cybM©Vb I ¶gZvevb Ki‡Z n‡e| c…w_exi wewfbœ †`‡k D”Pwk¶v Kwgkb Av‡Q| †Zgwb evsjv‡`‡kI D”Pwk¶v Kwgkb GLb mg‡qi `vwe| GB Kwgkb MV‡bi cvkvcvwk ch©vß eivÏI wbwðZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
mKv‡ji Lei : Gw·g e¨vsK K…wl wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Kvh©µg m¤ú‡K© wKQy ejyb|
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : Gw·g e¨vsK K…wl wek¦we`¨vj‡qi MZ eQiB D‡Øvab Kiv n‡q‡Q| GLbI cvV`vb ïi“ nqwb| Avgiv cÖ_gev‡ii g‡Zv GLb QvÎ-QvÎx fwZ© KiwQ| gvbm¤§Z wk¶vcÖwZôvb M‡o †ZvjvB Avgv‡`i g~j j¶¨| Avgiv †mB j‡¶¨ AvaywbK †Kvm© I KvwiKyjvg cÖYqb K‡iwQ| eZ©gv‡b K…wl I K…wl A_©bxwZ‡Z weGmwm Abvm©, GjGjwe Abvm© Ges weweG †Kv‡m© QvÎ-QvÎx fwZ© Kiv n‡”Q| Avgv‡`i g~j K_v GKUvB- wk¶vi ¸YMZ gvb wb‡q †Kv‡bv Avcm Kiv n‡e bv|
mKv‡ji Lei : Avcbvi wek¦we`¨vj‡q wk¶vi cwi‡ek I QvÎ-QvÎx‡`i gvbm¤§Z cvV`vb wbwð‡Z Kx Kx myweav ivLv n‡q‡Q?
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : hviv D”Pwk¶vi bv‡g mvwU©wd‡KU µq-weµq Ki‡Q Zviv mevB `ye©…Ë| ZvB GKRb wk¶K wn‡m‡e evwYR¨ bq, h_v_© wk¶v cÖ`vbB g~j j¶¨ g‡b Kwi| GRb¨ G wel‡q †Kv‡bv Qvo †`Iqv n‡e bv| Avwg PvB, G wek¦we`¨vjqwU GKwU M‡elYvwfwËK cÖwZôvb wn‡m‡e M‡o DVyK| GRb¨ wk¶K-Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvix wb‡qv‡M ¯^”QZv I `¶Zv‡K cÖvavb¨ †`Iqv n‡”Q| KvwiKyjvg Kiv n‡q‡Q b_©-Av‡gwiKvb KvwiKyjv‡gi Av‡jv‡K| K¬vm ïi“i Av‡MB Avgiv AvaywbK j¨ve‡iUwi ¯’vcb K‡iwQ, jvB‡eÖwi ¯’vcb K‡iwQ, Kw¤úDUvi j¨ve K‡iwQ| GKB m‡½ †kÖwYK¶¸‡jv‡Z AvaywbK gvbm¤§Z mg¯— e¨e¯’v ivLv n‡q‡Q| myZivs GKwU Av`k© D”P wk¶vcÖwZôvb wn‡m‡e Gw·g e¨vsK K…wl wek¦we`¨vjq M‡o DV‡e-GUvB Avgvi cÖZ¨vkv|
mKv‡ji Lei : ab¨ev` Avcbv‡K|
†gv. Ave`yj gvbœvb AvK›` : ab¨ev` Avcbv‡KI| mKv‡ji Lei
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