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mv�vwnK : c�_�g Avcbvi �kke m���K� Rvb�Z PvB|
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avgvi Rb� KjKvZvq, 1937 mv�ji 20 Gwc�j| hw`I Avgv�`i cvwievwiK ms�hvM wQj ewikv�ji m��| Avgvi `v`v �mq` mv�`Z �nv�mb wQ�jb mv�q��vev�`i Rwg`vi| mv`y wgqv bv�gB wZwb cwiwPZ wQ�jb| Avgvi evev Wv. Avn��` �nv�mb wQ�jb GgweweGm Wv�vi| KjKvZv �c�wm�Ww� K�j�R K�qKRb gymjgvb Qv��i g�a� wZwb wQ�jb Ab�Zg| 1929 mv�j wZwb Wv�vwi cvk K�ib| ZLb �_�KB KjKvZvq Zvi c��vKwUm �i�|
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mv�vwnK : c�_g XvKv G�jb K�e?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avgiv c�_g 1947 mv�j XvKv wfwRU Kijvg| GLv�b Avmvi e�vcv�i c֯�ywZ �bqvi Rb�| P~ov��fv�e G�mwQ �49-G| hvIqv-Avmvi g�a� wKQy mgq �M�Q| GLv�b G�m evev XvKv �gwW�Kj K�j�R R�qb Ki�jb| XvKv �gwW�Kj K�j�Ri wWcvU��g�U Ae B�jK�U�v�_ivwc Zvi nv�ZB Mov|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbviv Kq fvB�evb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avgiv GK fvB GK �evb| �evb Avng`x �eMg| wZwb GLvb �_�KB M��vRy�qkb K�iwQ�jb|
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mv�vwnK : GLv�b G�m �Kv_vq _vK�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �eBwj �iv�Wi Kv�Q �j�dkvb wew�s c�wZw�Z nq �50 mv�j| ZLb Avgiv GLvbKvi evwm�`v| GLb �hLv�b Avgvi evwo ZLb �mLvbUvq AvgevMvb wQj| �j�dkv�b _vKvKvjxb evev ej�jb GLv�b wKQy RvqMv-Rwg �`wL| �54 mv�j Avgv�`i �mB evwoUv Kiv n�q�Q| Avi �hLv�b GLb Avwg _vwK �mUv �56-57 mv�j Kiv|
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mv�vwnK : hLb evsjv�`�k Avm�jb ZLb �Zv Avcwb ��y�ji Qv�|
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : n�uv, ��y�ji Qv�| Avwg G�m �m�U �M�Mwi�Z fwZ� njvg| g�vwU�K cix�v w`jvg �51 mv�j|
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mv�vwnK : �mB mg�q Avcbvi mncvVx Kviv wQ�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Aa�vcK Avwbmy�vgvb mv�ne wQ�jb| Avi Lye m��eZ Aa�vcK wmivRyj Bmjvg �P�ayix mv�neI _vK�Z cv�ib| Zvici Avgvi GK eQ�ii wmwbqi wQ�jb knx` eyw�Rxex wMqvmDw�b mv�ne| K�j�R Avgiv Avevi GKm�� njvg|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbvi gv wK wKQy Ki�Zb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avgvi gv �Kv�bv �ckvRxex wQ�jb bv| wK�� wZwb Avgv�`i M�o Zy�j�Qb mwVKfv�e| Av��h�i welq n�jv, wZwb �h gb GZ k� Ki�jb Ges ej�jb, hvI, GUv fvevB hvq bv| A_P Avwg Zvi GKwUgv� �Q�j|
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mv�vwnK : g�vwU�K Ges B�UviwgwW�q�U Avcbvi �iRv� �Kgb wQj?
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mv�vwnK : g�vwU�K cvm Kivi ci mv�q� bv c�o AvU��m �M�jb �Kb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : H �h AvBbRxex ne e�j| GUv �Zv e� Av�M �_�KB Avgvi B�Qv wQj| memgq �f�ewQ �^vaxb �ckvq �h�Z n�e| �^vaxbfv�e wKQy Ki�Z n�e|
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mv�vwnK : �^vaxb �ckvi ���� AvBb �ckv�KB �e�Q wb�jb, �Kv�bv �c�iYv wK �KD wQj?
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W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avwg bUi�Wg BDwbfvwm�wU�Z `yB eQ�i B�Kvbwg�� Abvm� Kijvg|
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mv�vwnK : B�Kvbwg�� Avcbvi AvM�nUv wQj �Kb?
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mv�vwnK : ZLb Avcwb wb�RB wVK Ki�jb �h Avcwb j� co�Z hv�eb?
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mv�vwnK : hLb Avcwb M�vRy�qkb wb�jb �m mgq Avcbvi e�y-ev�e Kviv wQ�jb? Avcbvi mncvVx�`i g�a� weL�vZ Kviv wQ�jb?
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mv�vwnK : mncvVx weL�vZ Avi �K �K wQ�jb?
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mv�vwnK : Gici Bsj�v� �M�jb KLb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : RvnvR a�i AvUjvw�UK cvwo w`�qwQ| Rvnv�R cvi n�q j�b �_�K d�vBU wb�qwQ| m��eZ AvM�-�m�ޤ^i gv�m Bsj�v�� wM�qwQ|
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mv�vwnK : wcGBPwW Ki�jb �Kb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : c�_gZ, Avwg AvZ�wbf�ikxj n�q wb�Ri LiPvq evi-GU-j Ki�Z �P�qwQ| evwo �_�K �hb Avgv�K UvKv wb�Z bv nq| �mUv wbw�Z Kijvg| Av�iKUv n�jv hLb GUv cvIqv hv��Q GKUv Awf�Zv n�e| Avi evi-GU-j Kivi Rb� �Zv IB mgq GKUv wd� UvBg _v�K| evi-GU-j cix�vi Rb� `yB GKgvm jv�M| wK�� _vK�Z nq GK eQi| KviY GK eQi G�U�ۛU w`�Z nq wjsKm-Bb-G|
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mv�vwnK : wcGBPwW �kl Ki�jb K�e?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �61-�Z �evanq mvgv�ii w`�K Avwg hvIqvi D�`�vM wb�qwQ wK�� mgq Ki�Z cvwiwb| �63-�Z Avwg jۇb wM�qwQ| g�v�Uwiqvj wb�q �jLv �i� Kijvg| �59 �_�K ZLb c�vq 4 eQi n�q �M�Q| �64-G cuvP eQi n�q �M�Q| wZb eQ�ii RvqMvq cuvP eQi| ZLb m�vi nvgwd� Avgv�K wjL�jb �h, �`L Avwg Avi cviwQ bv| Avwg d�vKvw�K e�j e�j �Zvgvi g�vw�gvg �hUv QywU �`qv hvq Zv B�Zvg�a� �`qv n�q �M�Q| GLb Zywg G�m 4-6 gvm hw` KvUvI Z�e w_wmm �kl K�i, mvewgU K�i wWwM� wb�q �h�Z cvi| Zv�K ejjvg, wVK Av�Q Avwg P�j Avme| Avwg �64-Gi Gwc�j gv�m wM�qwQ| Avi �m�ޤ^i gv�m w_wmm mvewgU K�iwQ| A��vei gv�m fvBfv cix�v n�q�Q|
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mv�vwnK : wcGBPwWi welq Kx wQj?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : ��U mf�iw�U A�v� BDbvB�UW �bkbm PvU�vW�| GUvi Rb� Avwg m�vi nvgwd�i Kv�Q K�Z�| Dwb �hfv�e Avgv�K my�hvMUv K�i w`�jb, fvevB hvq bv|
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mv�vwnK : Avcwb Gic�i K�e �`�k wd�i Avm�jb, c��vKwUm �i� Ki�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : 1959 mv�ji 16 b�e�^i| MZ 2009-G cy�iv 50 eQi n�q�Q|
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mv�vwnK : �59-G G�m wK e�e�yi m�� cwiPq n�jv?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : GUv �60-61 mvj n�e| �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne c�_g hLb Avm�jb|
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mv�vwnK : Avcwb wK wb�RB KvR �i� Ki�jb bvwK Kv�iv m��?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : AwiwRb�vj e�j GKUv dvg� wQj| GL�bv Av�Q| �mUv �i�i w`�Ki GKUv j� dvg�| Iiv Ebwesk kZv�x�Z KjKvZvq j� dvg� K�iwQj| I�`i GKRb evOvwj cvU�bvi ILvb �_�K D�`�vM wb�q GKUv dvg� Ki�jb| �59-G �evanq 2-3 eQi n�q�Q| H dv�g� 5-6 Rb AvBbRxex wQ�jb| Avgvi m�� �`Lv n�j Ave`yj Avn�g` ej�jb, Zywg Avgvi GLv�b R�qb Ki bv �Kb| R�qb Kijvg| ILv�b `yRb Bswjk AvBbRxexI wQ�jb| Rvw�m �gvnv��` �nv�mbI wQ�jb| LyeB weL�vZ GKRb gvbyl| whwb c�i nvB�Kv�U�i k��vfvRb RR wn�m�e �^xK�Z n�jb| Avgiv GKB i��g emZvg|
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mv�vwnK : GB mg�qi �Kv�bv ���wZ wK g�b `vM �K�U Av�Q?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�n�ei �cQ�b Gqvi�cvU� �_�K wUKwUwK (�Mv�q�`v evwnbxi �jvK) �j�M �hZ| Dwb G�KK mgq �ek gRv Ki�Zb| ej�Zb, �cQ�b �Zv wUKwUwK �j�M�Q, wUKwUwK��jv�K Avgiv GKUy �Ljv �`LvB, W�vBfvi GKUy Wv�b Kv�Uv, GKUy ev�g Kv�Uv, Nywi�q bvI MvwoUv, Gfv�e Ki�Z Ki�Z kvw��bMi Avmv n�Zv| gywRe fvB�K c�k� KiZvg, gvk�vj j� KZw`b Pj�e? Dwb ej�Zb, GLv�b gvk�vj j� �Kv�bvw`bB wPi��vqx n�e bv| GUv cuvP eQi, Lye �ewk n�j `k eQi, Zvici I�`i Qvo�ZB n�e| �69-G AvBqye Lvb hLb we`vq wb��Qb, ZLb gywRe fvB�K e�jwQjvg, Avcwb wK K�i A� K�i Avgv�K �59 mv�j e�jwQ�jb �h, Avqy�ei Avqy Lye �ewk n�j cuvP eQi bv nq 10 eQi n�e| wVK `k eQ�i G�m �69-Gi gv�P� AvBqye Lvb eva� n�qwQj gvk�vj j� Zyj�Z|
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mv�vwnK : Avcwb �Zv wKQyKvj XvKv wek�we`�vj�q cwo�q�Qb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avwg XvKv wek�we`�vj�q cvU�UvBg wk�KZvI K�iwQ| �61 �_�K cvU�UvBg wk�KZv �i� Kwi| c�_�g Avwg B�Uvib�vkbvj wi�jkb covZvg| wnw�� Ae B�Uvib�vkbvj j� cov�bv �i� Kijvg| Zvi wKQyw`b c�iB Rvg�vwbi GKRb weL�vZ Av��R�vwZK j-Bqvi cևdmi Wvg G�jb wWb wn�m�e| Avwg Lei �c�qwQ �h, G�mB wZwb Avgv�K LyuR�Qb| Avwg �Mjvg| ej�jb, Avwg �bwQ Zywg B�Uvib�vkbvj j� wel�q wimvP� Kiv �jvK, �Zv Zywg j� d�vKvw�Z �bB �Kb? hw`I Avwg j� d�vKvw�Z �h�Z �P�qwQ wK�� ZLb Avgv�K ejv n�qwQj GB wefv�M GLb RvqMv �bB| wePvicwZ nvgy`yi ingvb ZLb fvBm P�v��ji| Avgv�K ej�jb �h, Zywg wewmGj K�iQ| A��dv�W� wWwM� K�iQ, e�vwi�vi n�qQ, BDwbfvwm�wU�Z �Kb Avm�e?
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mv�vwnK : XvKv wek�we`�vi�qi L�vwZgvb wk�K Aa�vcK Ave`yi iv�vK mv�n�ei m�� Avcbvi �hvMv�hvM �Kgb wQj?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : LyeB Nwb� wQjvg Zvi| LyeB k��v KiZvg| iv�vK mv�ne �Zv Avgv�`i mK�ji m�vi| XvKv BDwbfvwm�wU�ZB Zvi m�� Avgvi c�_g �`Lv n�q�Q| Avwbmy�vgvb, Lvb mviIqvi gyiwk`, �gvkvid �nv�mb, gy��vdv b~iDj Bmjvg, W. gwj�K, wRj�yi ingvb wmw�Kx Gu�`i wb�q Avgv�`i GKUv Nwb� mv�K�j wQj �m mgq|
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mv�vwnK : �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�n�ei m�� �Zv Avcwb KvRI Ki�jb, Kv�Q �_�KI �`�L�Qb, Zvi �ckvRxeb m���K� hw` e�jb|
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mv�vwnK : �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�n�ei AvBb �ckv m���K� wKQy NUbv hw` e�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : A�b�KB g�b KiZ, wZwb GZ e��� gvbyl, mvivw`b GZ �jvK Zvi Kv�Q Avm�Qb, ivR�bwZK Av�jvPbv Ki�Qb, wZwb wb�R wewfb� RvqMvi `vIqvZ M�nY Ki�Qb, GZ e���Zvi g�a�I wZwb IKvjwZ Ki�Zb wKfv�e? wZwb mvaviYZ ivZ GMv�ivUv-ev�ivUvq wdi�Zb| ej�Zb �h, Avgvi eB��jv �i�L hvI, we�d��jv �i�L hvI Avwg iv�Z coe| mKv�j �MwQ, Avgv�K ej�Qb, n�uv, GB `kUv eB �Kb �`qv n�q�Q? G��jv �Zv c�vmw�K eB bv| `kUvi g�a� cuvPUv fv�jv, evwK��jv Avgvi Lv�gvLv mgq b� K�i�Q, BZ�vw`|
eySZvg �h, Dwb eB��jvi jvBb evB jvBb c�ob| �KvbUv c�vmw�K �KvbUv Ac�vmw�K, me Dwb c�ob| Zvici Avjv`v K�i iv�Lb| hLb c�ob, cևZ�K jvBb, `vwo, Kgv ch��� gvK� K�ib| Avwg wb�R eB covi GB Kvq`vUv Ibvi KvQ �_�K wk�LwQ|
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mv�vwnK : �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�n�ei �Km gyf Kivi `y-GKUv NUbv hw` ej�Zb|
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Lye eo �Km wQj P�`�bv_ wd�j�i| P�`�bv_ wdj��K �`Lvevi AwaKvi wb�q `yB wWw��weDU�ii g�a� jovB| `y�R�bB K�U�v� K�i�Q| wPwVc� Av`vb-c�`vb K�i�Q| `y�RbB ej�Q �h, �`Lv�bvi AwaKvi Avgvi i�q�Q| �mB gvgjvi GK c�� �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne| mv�eK A�vUwb� �Rbv�ij dwKi kvnvey�xb ZLb Ibvi Rywbqi| Avi Avwg Ibv�`i m�� wfojvg| c��vKwU�m ZLb Avgvi `y�eQiI nqwb| Rv� �kvbvi Rb�, �evSvi Rb�, �kLvi Rb� Zv�`i m�� e�mwQ|
Avi Ab� c�� gvgjv jo�Z KivwP �_�K G�m�Qb weL�vZ AvBbRxex GmG �e�vwn mv�ne| �e�vwn mv�n�ei m�� �h Rywbqiiv G�jb Zv�`i �cQ�b wZb-PviRb wcqb c�vq PviUv eo eo eB�qi evw�j wb�q Av`vj�Z nvwRi n�jv| c�vq 100Uv eB n�e| Avi �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�n�ei mvg�b �Kv�bv eB bvB| K�v�q�UI Lye bvf�vm n�q hv��Qb, ej�Qb, Avcbviv Gfv�e eB Qvov Dcw��Z n�jb| Avcbv�`i wc�cv�ikb Av�Q �Zv! Avwg �Zv wKQyB eyS�Z cviwQ bv|
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Zvi c�i �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne `uvwo�q �PvL KPwj�q ej�jb, gvB jW� Avcbviv �Zv ZvwˡK K_v Lye �b�Qb, �vb hv AR�b Kivi Avgiv mevB K�iwQ| wK�� GLb Avmyb Avgiv GKUy �K�m wd�i Avwm| cy�iv cwi�ekUvB gyn~�Z� Ny�i �Mj| GB �h Avcwb 17 bs �cB�R GKUy �`�Lb, �ccvi ey�K| GB �h wPwV| Zvici Dwb ch�v�jvPbv Ki�jb jvBb evB jvBb| GUv `uvov�e bv| GB WKy�g�UB `uvov�e| Gfv�eB Zuvi hyw�ZK� �kl Ki�jb| Ae�k�l wZwb Zvi g���ji c��B ivq �c�q �M�jb| IB GKUv WKy�g��Ui Ic�iB ivq �c�jb| c�i Dwb Avgv�`i ej�jb �h, �`L �Km `uvovq d�v��i Ic�i| AvBb �Zv wVKB Av�Q| wK�� AvBbUv cևqvM Kivi mgq �h d�v� �mme WKy�g�U �`L�Z n�e|
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mv�vwnK : Dwb �Zv eo AvBbRxex wQ�jb? �KvU� m���K� Dbvi AvPiY �Kgb wQj?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �kL gywRe �evanq ZLb Rvwgb A_ev �h �Kv�bv cwjwUK�vj �K�mi Rb� GKevi g�vwR���U �Kv�U� �M�Qb| �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne Dbvi c�� AvBbRxex wn�m�e �M�jb| Dwb g�vwR���U�K �h m��vb �`Lv�jb, g�vwR���U ch��� `uvwo�q hvq G iKg Ae��v Avi wK| Avgv�K ej�jb �`L, �KvU� �Zv �KvU�| G Rb� wbg� Av`vjZ�K �ewk m��vb �`Lv�bv `iKvi| hv�Z g�vwR���U g�b K�i GKUv eo `vwqZ� wb�q GLv�b e�m Av�Q| Avgv�`i GKUv wk�v n�jv �h, me �KvU��K m��vb �`Lv�bv `iKvi| Ges �mUv wmwiqvmwj �`Lv�bv `iKvi|
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mv�vwnK : gvgjv wb�q Avi �Kv�bv ���wZ?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Zvi m�� GKUv �Km-Gi NUbv Avwg ��iY Ki�Z cvwi| Dwb ej�jb �h, Avwg KivwP nvB�Kv�U� GKUv �Km Kie Zywg Avm�Z cvi| KivwP �Mjvg| wPd RvR m�vi RR� Kbw�wUDkb `uvwo�q�Qb, w�wgbvj �K�m �Kv�bv GKUv c�q�U `uvwo�q Avi� Ki�Qb| Kbw�wUDkb ej�Qb, Av�Qv Gi bwRi w�wgbvj c�wmwWDi �K�mi �Kvb �mKk�b? �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne ej�jb, gvB jW� Avcwb c�wZw`b GB �Km��jv �bvwb Ki�Qb, �Kvb �mKk�b GUv �Zv Avcwb Avgvi �P�q fv�jv Rvb�eb| mevB ZLb �n�m w`�Z eva� n�jv|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbvi wb�Ri �^vaxbfv�e c��vKwUm Kivi Awf�ZvUv ZLb �_�K n�jv?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �63-�Z Ibvi g�Zy�i c�i �Zv AvIqvgx jx�Mi cybR�b� n�jv �64-Gi wW�m�^�i| �65-G cvK-fviZ hy� n�jv| hy��i c�iB �Zv 6 `dv �ck Kiv n�jv| ZLb �_�KB c�cw�Kvq Avgvi bvg DVj wewfb� �K�mi Kvi�Y| B��dvK�K ev�Rqv� Kiv n�q�Q 1966 mv�ji 7 Ryb|
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mv�vwnK : B��dv�Ki gvgjvi NUbvUv ej�eb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : B��dv�Ki m��v`K gvwbK wgqv�KI A�v�i� Kiv n�jv| gywRe fvB�KI A�v�i� Kij, cw�KvI ev�Rqv� n�jv| ZLb �h me AvBbRxex c�_�gB Gi g�a� RwoZ n�jb Zvi g�a� AvwgI wQjvg| e�vwi�vi Avgxi-Dj Bmjvg wQ�jb, dwKi kvnveyw�b, �K Gm bexI wQ�jb| gvwbK wgqvi eo �Q�j e�vwi�vi gBbyj �nv�mb ZLbB G�m�Qb cov�kvbv �kl K�i| wZwbI G�m�Qb evevi c�� jo�Z| Avgiv �R�j �`Lv Ki�Z �Mjvg| gywRe fvB�qi c��I Avgiv `uvovjvg| �hUv ��iYxq NUbv �h gvwbK fvB Avi B��dv�Ki c�� AvBwb jovB Ki�Z cvwK��vb �_�K gvngy` Avjx Kvmyix�K Avbv n�jv| Dwb Lye DuPy gv�bi AvBbRxex wQ�jb| �e�vwn ev gbRyi Kv�`i �hgb bvgKiv AvBbRxex wZwbI �miKg| Dwb wZb w`b �Km Pvjv�jb B��dv�Ki c��| PZy_� w`�b Dwb ej�jb �h Avgvi mywc�g�Kv�U� WvK c�o�Q Avwg �Zv AvMvgxKvj�K _vK�Z cviwQ bv| �bvwb gyjZwe Kiv �nvK| ZLb wPd Rvw�m wQ�jb weG wmw�Kx| Dwb ej�jb, �Kb Avcbvi Rywbqi hviv Av�Qb Zviv �Km Ki�e| Ibviv �Zv me e�vBU Rywbqi| Avwg �Zv m�� m�� bvf�vm n�q c�owQ �h GZ eo �Km gvngy` Avjx Kvmyix Pviw`b Pvwj�q�Qb, Dbvi Abycw��wZ�Z Avgvi Ic�i co�j Avwg �mUv wKfv�e g�v�bR Kie? wPd Rvw�m ej�jb, �bv �bv, Zywg �Kb Ki�Z cvi�e bv, Ki|
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mv�vwnK : �mUv Avcbvi K�vwiqv�i �e�K _&i� n�jv wb�qB|
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W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avgiv Zi�Y AvBbRxexiv mvnwmKZviI cwiPq w`�qwQ| ZvQvov wKQy fv�jv AvBbRxex evg ivR�bwZK `j, �hgb b�v�c wQ�jb| wKQy Wv�b wQ�jb, �hgb gymwjg jxM| AvIqvgx jx�Mi g�a� �mvn�vIqv`�x mv�ne Aek� mvg�b wQ�jb| Ave`ym mvjvg, Rwni Dw�b mv�ne wQ�jb bvgKiv AvBbRxex| Avi Avgiv nvB�KvU� ch�v�q L�vwZ �cjvg we�kl K�i B��dvK gvgjvi Bmy��Z| Avi �nwf�qm Kcvm� gvgjvq|
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mv�vwnK : AvBbRxex �_�K �gk ivR�bwZK NUbvewji m�� Rwo�q co�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Avwg GKUy we��vwiZ ej�Z PvB| �69-G ivD� �Uwej Kbdv�i� emj| c֯�veUv Avmj �h GLvb �_�K �bZviv hv�e, �kL gywRe�KI ILv�b mevB Avkv Ki�Q �h Dwb hv�eb| bv n�j �Zv �Mvj�Uwej �eVK Am��b� _vK�e| ZLb e�e�y c�_g Avgv�K ej�jb �h, cw�g cvwK��vwb�`i ej �Rj �_�K A��Z ZvRD�xb�K Qvo�Z| ZvRD�xb Gme e�vcv�i Avgvi c�wZwbwa wn�m�e K_v ej�Z cvi�e| IB c֯�veUv �`qvi ci ZvRD�xb fvB Qvov �c�jb|
e�e�y �Zv bvUKxqfv�e �ei��jb, gv�b �Km DB_W� n�q| wK�� ZvRD�xb fvB �Zv GB �K�mi Avmvwg wQ�jb bv| Ibv�K Ab� �K�m A_ev 6 `dvi e�vcv�i a�iwQj| Ibv�K Qvoj Avi Avgv�K ZLb e�e�y (ZLb Aek� gywRe fvB ejZvg) ej�jb �h, Zywg GLb ZvRD�x�bi m�� A�vUvPW| hv wKQy Ki�e ZvRD�x�bi m�� K_v e�j Ki�e|
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mv�vwnK : ivD� �Uwej �eV�K Ask �bevi KvwnbxUv...
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : ZLb ivD� �Uwe�j hvIqvi K_v DVj| Pvwiw`�K cwjwUK�vj �c�mvi ZLb evo�Q| Av��`vjbI �ek �Rvi`vi n�q D�V�Q| Avgiv wjM�vj �bvwUk w`�qwQ �h �`L, GLb GUv Pj�Z cv�i bv| KviY evB `�vU UvBg Kbw�wUDkb AvB`vi wifvBf n�Z hv��Q A_ev n�q�Q| Bgvi�Rw� DB_W� n�Z hv��Q| Avgv�`i K_v n�jv GB ���kvj U�vBey�bvj Pj�Z cv�i bv| �Kbbv GUv AmvsweavwbK| GUv DB_W� Ki�Z n�e| ZLb gywRe fvB ej�jb �h, Avwg �Mvj�Uwej �eV�K �h�Z cvwi hw` webv k�Z� �Km DB_W� K�i| Avi mevB�K �Rj �_�K Qvo�Z n�e|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbv�`i jv�nv�i Ae��vbKvjxb �m mg�qi �Kv�bv ���wZ g�b c�o?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : jv�nv�i �QvULv�Uv NUbv��jv �hgb- AvRMi LvbI Avgv�`i m�� �`Lv Ki�jb, Gqvi�cv�U� Avm�jb| ZvRD�xb fvB�K ej�jb �h, Avcbv�`i ivR�bwZK Ae��vb wVK Av�Q| AvgivI mg_�b Kwi �h �kL gywRe�K mm��v�b Avm�Z w`�jB �Kej wZwb Avm�eb|
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mv�vwnK : Zvici wK e�e�y gy� n�jb KvivMvi �_�K?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : wd�i G�m �i� n�jv Rvwg�bi bvUK| e�e�y mivmwi ej�jb �h, bv GUv n�e bv| Avevi AvBbg��x Rvdi mv�ne �dvb Ki�Qb| �Rbv�ij �gvRvd&di D�xb wRIwm Avgv�K wb�q hv��Qb �dv�bi Kv�Q| ej�Qb �h, �Zvgiv �Zv �ej wb�j bv| Avwg ejjvg, GUv �Zv Av�MB ejv n�qwQj �h Avgiv Rvwgb PvBe bv| Avgiv PvB Avb-KbwWkbvj DB_W�j& Ae w` �Km| wbtkZ�fv�e gvgjvUv Zy�j wb�Z n�e| ZLb Dwb Avgv�K ej�Qb �h, wegvbevwnbx c�avb b~i Lvb, BR Aj�iwW wmwUs Ab w` Gqvi�cvU� DB_ G �c�b| m�� A�vWwgivj Lvb, �m wW�d� wgwb�vi bv �nvg wgwb�vi wK �hb wQj| wZwbI Av�Qb �mLv�b| Avwg g�v�mR cvVvw�Q| Avgxi-Dj Bmjvg g�v�mR��jv wb��Qb| Avwg �Uwj�dv�b K_v ejwQ| Zvici c֯�ve w`j �h, Av�Qv �kL gywRe Rvwg�b hv�eb bv? �mUv m��vbRbK bv? �Zv AjivBU| DB DBj I�cb `� �Rj �MBU, BD K�vb IqvKAvDU|
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mv�vwnK : GB c֯�v�ei ci Avcbviv wK Ki�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : e�e�y�K Rvbvjvg Iiv GB c֯�ve w`�q ej�Q �h, �R�ji �MU Ly�j �`�e Avi Avcwb P�j �h�Z cv�ib, Mvwo G�m Avcbv�K Gqvi�cv�U� wb�q hv�e| ZLb e�e�y ej�jb, G iKg �e-AvBwb KvR Avwg Ki�Z cvwi? Avwg �Zv GLb ew�`| �Kv�bv AW�vi n�e bv, wKQy n�e bv, �MU Ly�j �`�e Avwg IqvK AvDU Kie| GUv nq bvwK!
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mv�vwnK : �m mgq Avi �Kv�bv D�j�L�hvM� NUbv g�b c�o?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Av�iKUv eo NUbv ej�Z fy�j �MwQ| �hw`b Avgiv Bmjvgvev` �_�K wd�iwQ GB �KvU� emv�bvi Av�M, Gqvi�cv�U� G�m �bjvg �h, �hLv�b Iiv ew�` Av�Qb �mLv�b �wj n�q�Q| mv�R��U R�i�j nK Avi dRjyj nK `yBRb AvnZ, m��eZ GKRb wbnZ| D�� Ae��v ILv�b| �m D�� Ae��vi g�a� Avgiv �Kv�U� G�mwQ| �divi c�_ �`wL iv��vq Av�b R�j�Q| �m��Uvwi�q�Ui �ivWUvi D��v w`�K �Kv�bv g��xi evwo wQj| KvR�b n�ji w`�K �Kvbvi evwoUv Av��b R�j�Q| ILvb �_�K Mvwo w`�q cvi n�q hvw�Q| evsjv GKv�Wgxi Kv�Qi GKUv evwo�Z RR mv�neiv wQ�jb| AwZw_ feb wQj K�qKUv| �mLv�bI Av��b R�j�Q| Av�iv wKQy`~i AM�mi njvg| �kivU�bi (eZ�gv�b i�cmx evsjv) D��v w`�K UyBb nvDm wQj| XvKvi bIqve nvQvb AvmKvix| wZwb wQ�jb B� cvwK��vb gymwjg jx�Mi �c�wm�W�U| ILv�b wM�q �`LwQ �h, IB evwoUvI R�j�Q| ZLb �kivUb �nv�U�ji bvg wQj B�UviKw�U�b�Uvj �nv�Uj| �`wL �h nvQvb AvmKvix mv�ne jyw�civ Ae��vq `uvwo�q Av�Qb| cy�iv cwievi Ibvi cv�k iv��vi dyUcv�_ `uvwo�q Av�Q| evwo�Z Av�b R�j�Q| Avwg mvjvg w`jvg, �`wL Ibvi �Pv�L cvwb| ej�jb, �`L Avgvi evwo cy�o hv��Q| ejjvg, Mvwo�Z I�Vb| mevB�K mvwK�U nvD�m �c�u�Q w`�q Gjvg| GUv n�jv ZLbKvi c�wZw�qv| Ae��v Avi K��U�vj Kiv hv��Q bv|
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mv�vwnK : �m mgq mv�R��U R�i�j nK�K �wj Kiv n�jv �Kb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : R�i�j nK�K �wj Kiv n�q�Q GB ARynv�Z �h, wZwb cvjvw�Q�jb| GUv GK`g ev�R K_v, cvjv�bvi c�k�B D�V bv| Rv� �g�i �dj�Z �P�q�Q| GUvi GKUv BwZnvm Av�Q| dRjyj nK, R�i�j nK `yBRb�K �wjwe� Ae��vq wb�q Avmv n�q�Q wmGgGBP-G, K�b�j Avjx wQ�jb mvR�b| DwbB BwZnvmUv e�j�Qb Avgv�K|
wZwb �wjwe� `yBR�bi D�χk ej�jb, Avwg K�b�j Avjx ejwQ, GKRb�K euvPv�bv hv�e| GB mg�qi g�a� `y�Uv Acv�ikb Kiv hv�e bv| `yR�bi g�a� �ay GKRb�K euvPv�Z cvwi| ZLb R�i�j nK ej�jb, dRjyj nK�K wb�q hvb| Acv�ikb K�ib| Avwg euvP�Z PvB bv| gv�b GKRb�K wb�Z n�j I�K �bb| I Avgvi �P�q eq�m Kg A_ev Zvi �jm BbRyiW| Avi dRjyj nK ej�Qb �h, bv I�K Avcwb �bb| K�b�j Avjx ZLb �wj �`�L RvR K�i�Qb �h Kvi euvPvi m��vebv �ewk| Dwb dRjyj n�Ki Acv�ikb K�ib| d�j Dwb �eu�P �M�Qb| Avi R�i�j nK gviv �M�jb|
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mv�vwnK : e�e�y ivR�bwZK `~i`�w�i cwiPq w`�jb, `vi�Yfv�e|
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : n�uv, Aek�B AmvaviY `~i`�w�| IB mg�q Dwb me eyS�Z �c�i�Qb| fwel�r �`�L�Qb| Zvr�wYKfv�e wm�v���i ci wm�v�� wb�q�Qb| GKw`�K Ibvi Rxeb evwR ivL�Z n�q�Q| Ab�w`�K ivR�bwZK �gwK w`��Q cvwK��vwbiv| ejv nw�Qj �h, GB �h mv�R��U R�i�j nK�K �g�i �d�j�Q Gi d�j Avgv�`i �mb��`i g�a� GKUv Aw��iZv, Aw��wZkxj Ae��v weivR Ki�e| �`L Kx n�q hvq| Avgiv wKQy Rvwb bv| Avgiv �Zv Ibvi wbivc�vi Rb� Ibv�K �c��b Zy�j wb�q Avm�Z Pvw�Q| e�e�yI ZLb nvm�Z nvm�Z e�j�Qb, Avwg �Zv gymjgvb, Kcv�j �jLv Av�Q Avgvi g�Zy� KLb NU�e| wbw`�� mg�qi GK �m�K� Av�MI g�Zy� n�e bv, GK �m�K� c�iI n�e bv| hw` Avgvi g�Zy� GLv�b _v�K n�e| e�e�y ej�jb, I�`i�K e�j `vI �h, �gwKi gy�L Avgv�K w`�q wKQy Kiv�bv hv�e bv|
Avgiv �Rbv�ij �gvRvd&di D�xb�K Rvwb�q G�mwQ Dwb Gme e�vcv�i Abo| ZLb �Rbv�ij e�j�Qb, G ce�Uv �kl| wK�� Gqvi�cvU� �ivW w`�q �Zv nvRvi nvRvi gvbyl Avm�Q| �m�vMvb w`��Q ԆR�ji Zvjv fvOe, �kL gywRe�K Avbe|� cwiw��wZ Av�iv Lvivc n��Q| gvbyl dyu�m DV�Z �i� K�i�Q| ZLb �mB Awdmvi ej�jb, Gi g�a� bv wM�q Avwg gvBK w`w�Q, wRc Mvwo��jv w`w�Q, ILv�b wM�q Gqvi�cv�U�i Kv�Q hviv Avm�Q Zv�`i�K Avcbviv �evSvb| Avwg K_v w`w�Q AvMvgxKvj ev�ivUvi w`�K m��vbRbKfv�e e�e�y�K gy� Ae��vq Zvi evmfe�b �c�u�Q �`qv n�e|
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mv�vwnK : Kg�x�`i eywS�q ej�Z �K �K wM�qwQ�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �K �K wQj G gyn~�Z� bvg g�b �bB| K�v�Ub�g��Ui mvg�b wM�q gvBwKs K�i D��wRZ RbZv�K kv�� Ki�Z wM�qwQ�jb ivR�bwZK Kg�xivB| c�ii w`bB cvwK��vwb �Rbv�ij Avgv�K �dvb K�i ej�jb �h, Avwg wb�R W�vBf K�i wRcUv�K ivbI�qi Ici w`�q �m K�i avbgw� wM�q �kL gywRe�K Ibvi 32 b�^�ii evmvq w`�q G�mwQ| �Zvgiv ILv�b wM�q Ibv�K cv�e|
ZLb nvRvi nvRvi �jvK avbgw� 32 b�^�i R�ov n�q�Q| GKUv ce� ILv�b �kl n�jv|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbvi �Zv ZLb A� eqm| Avcbvi Ici e�e�yi GB wbf�iZv �Zwi n�jv wKfv�e? GUv wK AvMiZjv gvgjvq Avcbvi f~wgKvi Kvi�Y?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : Av�Mi gvgjvi GKUv m��K� �Zv wQjB| Zvici �66 �_�K Av��� Av��� Avgv�`i Kv�Q Avmvi GKUv c�w�qv P�jwQj|
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mv�vwnK : ZLb �Zv Avcwb mgM� cvwK��vb evi KvDw݇ji fvBm �Pqvig�vb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �mB eQ�i Avwg cvwK��vb evi KvDw݇ji fvBm �Pqvig�vb| �71-Gi gv�P�I Avwg �mB c�` wQjvg|
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mv�vwnK : Avcbviv Kviv Kviv �M�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : `yB fv�M fvM n�q wKQy wKQy K�i wM�qwQ| kvgmyi ingvb Rbmb, Lvb mviIqvi gyiwk`, Avgxi-Dj BmjvgI wQ�jb| D�j�L�hvM� G�`iB K_v g�b co�Q| Av�iv 2-1 Rb n�Z cv�i| Avgvi KvR wQj ��U�g�U��jv wVK Kiv, �c�m�K we�d Kiv BZ�vw`| Dbv�`i mvnvh� �c�qwQ| Avi ZvRD�xb fvB �Zv g~jZ Avgv�`i AwffveK wQ�jb|
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mv�vwnK : ZvRD�xb mv�ne Qvov cwjwUK�vj wjWvi Avi �K �K wM�qwQ�jb?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : hZ`~i g�b co�Q �mq` bRi�j Bmjvg mv�ne, Kvgvi��vgvb mv�ne, wgRvb �P�ayix wQ�jb| Lye m��eZ �gvwgb mv�neI wQ�jb| c~e� cvwK��vb �_�K Avi hviv �M�jb Zvi g�a� wQ�jb byi�j Avwgb mv�ne| nvwg`yj nK �P�ayix mv�neI| dwi` Avn�g` mv�neI wQ�jb wK bv Avgvi g�b �bB| wPd Rvw�m gvneye �gv�k�`I �M�jb| Dwb wiUvqvW� K�i�Qb, gv�b Dwb wiRvBb K�iwQ�jb| cwjwUK�vj cvwU�i �jvK bv n�qI Zviv wK�� Av��`vj�bi mvg�b `uvwo�qwQ�jb| Gqvi gvk�vj AvRMvi Lvb KvD�Uvi cvwU� wn�m�e cw�g cvwK��v�b `uvwo�qwQ�jb| GKRb ivRbxwZwe` bv n�qI Av��`vj�bi GK`g c�_g KvZv�i wQ�jb|
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mv�vwnK : byi�j Avwgb mv�ne ZLb gymwjg jx�Mi �bZ���vbxq?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : n�uv, Aek�B| Avwg wM�q Ibv�K ejjvg �h �`�Lb, Avgiv Avcbv�K k��v Kwi| fvlv Av��`vj�bi mgq Avcbvi f~wgKv gvby�li Kv�Q M�nY�hvM� nqwb| gvbyl Avcbv�K k�fv�e GKUv kvw�� w`�qwQj| Avcwb wmwUs wPd wgwb�vi wn�m�e c`Py�Z n�jb| e�jwQjvg, �`�Lb Avcwb gyL�g��x n�qI fv�jv B�jKkb Ki�Z w`�jb| Avi civRq�K Avcwb �g�b wb�jb| Gfv�e Ibv�K Kbwf� K�iwQjvg| cieZ�x ���R �evSv hvq �h KZ Bgc�U��U wQj Ibv�K Gfv�e �evSv�bv|
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mv�vwnK : GUv �Zv LyeB �i�Z�c~Y� e�vcvi...
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mv�vwnK : g�yi Kv�`i mv�ne wK GLvbKvi �jvK wQ�jb?
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mv�vwnK : GUv KZ mv�ji w`�K?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb : �69-Gi ivD� �Uwe�ji mgq| �hw`b ivD� �Uwej �kl nq �mB w`b �`Ljvg �h AvBqye Lvb gv_v bZ K�i �ei���Q| �PnvivUv GK`g �wK�q �M�Q| Zvi KvcoI g�b n��Q gwjb| Zvi kixiUvI �QvU n�q �M�Q| Av�M �m eyK dywj�q PjZ, ZLb GK`g gv_v bZ K�i, GKRb civwRZ �mwb�Ki g�Zv �ei���Q| hw`I Avgv�`i `vwe gv�b bvB wK�� `vwe bv �g�b weR�qi �Kv�bv iKg fve �`Lv �Mj bv| Ab�w`�K Avcmnxb Av��`vj�bi GKUv �bZv wn�m�e e�e�y AvZ�wek�vm wb�q wdi�jb| Zvi g�bvfve GiKg- wVK Av�Q Avgv�`i�K b�vh� cvIbv w`j bv, Avgiv �Uwe�j Av�jvPbvq mgvavb �cjvg bv, Av��`vj�bi gva��g Av`vq Ki�Z n�e| ej�jb, XvKvq �dvb Ki|
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mv�vwnK : �c�m Kbdv�i��i Rb�?
W. Kvgvj �nv�mb